----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:56
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Adams FALL
UPWARD
Blaine: Scroll down--all the way to the
bottom.
Blaine Borrowman wrote:
Blaine: Thanks for your usual,
reasonable, logical, calm response,
DAVEH: Thanx,
Blaine.
DaveH.
Yes, you have stated many times that you
are here to learn .
DAVEH: FTR again.....I'm here to learn
what others believe, and why they believe it.
I could hardly
fail to notice, however,
that you have repeatedly been forced to defend your
own religio--and
your personal self--
DAVEH: I think that is par for
the course. This Forum is not necessarily adversarial friendly, despite
it's foundational purpose which was supposed to be a venue for many diverse
and divergent opinions.
for that matter, from
aggressive/antagonistic
remarks made by some TT'rs, as have I. You have
also
answered questions posed by others about your Mormon religion, as have
I. And when the answers fall on bigoted ears, and attempts
are afterwards
made to belittle and discredit your and my
answers,
DAVEH: I understand that and am not too bothered by
it....as I said, it is par for the course. What I really find
interesting though is even after I explain myself (perspective), many do not
want to accept what I've said, but would rather prefer to believe their
preconceived notions about what they think I believe. Then they tell me
that I am dishonest in my explanation. I can't quite figure out why they
feel the need to do that......so it does strike me as being very curious!
it does not make for a
situation of mutual
trust, respect or understanding. I too wonder why some
of these
people are here.
DAVEH: Perhaps it is mutual support.
I wonder why I am here.
DAVEH:
Perhaps it is mutual support! LOL
This is TT, or
TruthTalk, supposedly, but I have
yet to see many here who really are
interested in truth--mostly it has
been attempt after attempt to bloody our
noses!!
DAVEH:
I don't know how many TTers there are in total, but I think it is relatively
few who enjoy drawing blood. The question I ponder is whether the
remainder are enjoying the event as entertainment in the same fashion as those
who went to the Coliseum to watch the Christians being fed to the lions....
That is my perception, and it seems lately with
DavidM's more
objective influence on the wane, it has gotten
worse.
DAVEH: Ahhhhhh.....you are rather new here, Blaine. In
some respects it is a bit harsher at times, but it was no picnic 4 years ago
either. If you can't stand the heat Blaine, TT can be a rather warm
place to rest your feet!
Blaine: Don't take me wrong, I am not
building a case to leave TT. I am just complaining, hoping someone will
take note and learn from it. Your additional clarifications are
mucho appreciated, too.
I hope to continue holding
to the iron rod, as I continue to grope my way through the cloud in
the dark and dreary wilderness, despite the heat I get from
those in the great and spacious building. (:>)
My reward will be to know that
the allegory (?) I am alluding to was based upon reality, not
fiction. Being on TT has that effect on one. You probably
understand that better than I do, right? I never went on a Proselyting
mission, so I need the heat to catch up. I may be suffering from a
compulsive need to test myself in the crucible of fire, or maybe I just need
something to exercise my brain. Either way, I am in it, and plan to
stay. If TT'rs can dish out heat, they should be able to
take it. That's the axiom we went by when I was growing up.
My older brother was expecially good at dishing it out, so it is not entirely
new to me despite not having been on TT for all that
long. For the most part, it
is fun more often than not. But, yes, mutual support is where it is all
at.
----- Original Message -----
From:
"Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Adams
FALL UPWARD
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am noticing what some of the others who had been here
longer were
> > saying when I first joined TT and that is that you
"Mormon boys"
> > as you call yourselves do not have a heart that
is open to Truth and I
> > have the same question they asked which
is: Why are you here?
>
> DAVEH: Excuse me for
intruding on your response to Blaine, Judy, but I
perceived you implied
to include me in your above question by using the
plural form of
boys. FTR.....I have often times stated I am very content
with my
LDS biased beliefs. I have
> further stated that I am not in TT
to learn truth, but rather have an
interest here in learning what you
(Protestants) believe and why you believe
such. Why this surprises
you or any other TTer is beyond me, as I have
tried to make my
intentions clear
> from the beginning. Apparently there are a
lot of TTers who simply do not
believe what I say.
>
> As for why Blaine is here, I can't speak to
that except to say that I
invited him.
>
> > You are
just not interested and appear to be quite content with your
> >
man-made structure and locked into it's false doctrine along with all
> > the trappings. This makes you unavailable to God and deaf to
anything
> > we would have to say because as the old saying goes
"A man convinced
> > against his will is of the same opinion
still."
> >
> > I don't want to be unkind or rude but
man pleasing is not my forte,
> > and I am presently asking the
one I serve if I am wasting his time.
> >
> > Life is
short and Truth is precious.
> >
> > Judy
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