DaveH wrote: > Haven't you ever wondered why Jesus was chosen before > the foundation of the world to be our Savior IF God > was expecting A&E wouldn't partake of the FF? I bet > that isn't something that is discussed much in Protestant > circles.
You are misunderstanding something here, Dave. This is discussed a whole lot in Protestant circles. It has been a major point of division among Protestants. I posted previously about this so I'm not sure why you would make such a comment. The doctrine of predestination per Calvinism explains it one way while Arminians explain it another way. Both of these viewpoints are considered within orthodoxy. Open theism is another viewpoint, but it is not considered Orthodox. Search on these terms (Calvinism, Arminianism, Open Theism, Pelagianism) and you will find lots of debate among Protestants about this. DaveH wrote: > I do it to find out why you believe the way you do > when some things to my mind seem to contradict With regard to water baptism, do you understand that the John 3 passage is the only passage that would force your viewpoint? If I interpret water there not to refer to baptism, then there are no passages in Scripture that would necessitate water baptism in order for salvation. Do you recognize that? By the way, have you ever studied the Quaker argument for why water baptism is Jewish and should not be practiced at all by Christians? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.

