----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 8:15
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Baptist
Baptism
Blaine: Excuse me
Kevin, the first Mormon was not Joseph
Kevin wrote:
Come on Blaine, get real!
People have written complete books
Blaine: I
agree. People have written many books. But who are these people,
and why did they write the books? There are books, and there are
books. I read the ones I like, you read the ones that fit your
presumptions. The leaders of the LDS Church have recently encouraged
members to use the words "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or,
alternatively, The Church of Jesus Christ," when referring to the LDS
Church. Either way, it refers to the founder of the religion, who was
Jesus Christ. Joseph Smith was the prophet, but to say he is the founder
of the religion is the same as to say Moses was the founder of the religion
kept by the Israelites, the chosen people, the standard bearers of God's will
of that day.
The official magazine
for adults of the Church is the Ensign magazine. It contains current
revelation. You should try reading it. You would learn more about
the Church of Jesus Christ in one reading than you would in reading all the
books your attitudes tell me you must be reading.
on the subject. Maybe you can burn them quicker than BYU erases tattoos.
Blaine: Where do you get the book
burning story? Is this another one of the false reports that your
favorite authors came up with? Where and when did any book burnings take
place?
Now you want to revise history? LDS authorities have a history of
revising history, maybe you could get a few pointers.
Blaine: As Dave
H said, "What I really find interesting though is even after I
explain myself (perspective), many do not want to accept what I've said, but
would rather prefer to believe their preconceived notions about what they
think I believe. Then they tell me that I am dishonest in my
explanation. I can't quite figure out why they feel the need to do
that."
Blaine: This reflects my feeling on the subject
very well.
Here are some FIRSTS for you:
First Name of the
Church!
April 6, 1830 Founding of
the "Church of
Christ"
1830 BoM Title page - Jo
Smith AUTHOR &
PROPIETER
1835 D&C name
"Church of Latter Day
Saints" SECOND Name
1833 Book of Commandments
Title page showing "organized... april 1830"
Also notice Church name
"Church of Christ" 1st name
http://www.cephasministry.com/joseph_smith_the_magician.html Founder
& magician
http://www.pacifier.com/~dlmark/TRKirtlandTemple.htm The
FIRST Mormon Temple built in 1836 Forsaken after 2 years, when
Joe had to flee under cover of darkness.
Blaine Borrowman
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 12:47
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Baptist
Baptism
Kevin wrote:
Who was the
First?
First Mormon? - Joe Smith
Blaine: Excuse me
Kevin, the first Mormon was not Joseph Smith, but was
Jesus Christ. He is the one who introduced Mormonism to the
world. Your disbelief of that fundamental fact does not
mean it did not happen as I have stated, and for you to state that
"Joe Smith" was the founder of Mormonism, considering how much you
apparently know about the subject, makes you appear to be trying to
deceive others into adhering to your disbelief.
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