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Oh, OK. LOL
I see your point. I do my best.
Blaine
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Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:45
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Adams FALL
UPWARD
Blaine: OH? Well, now tell us
more Kevin. You have all of these quotes from LDS people, how about a
few Baptist quotes to prove what you are saying. Or do you just collect
LDS quotes? That is your job. IF YOU
CAN.... Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Blaine: OH? Well, now tell us more
Kevin. You have all of these quotes from LDS people, how about a few
Baptist quotes to prove what you are saying. Or do you just collect
LDS quotes?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 6:51
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Adams FALL
UPWARD
Everyone knows, Baptists do not Baptize infants Blaine
Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Blaine:
I have done of lot of names extraction for the LDS Church,
mostly
Presbyterian ancestors, and ALL of them had their children
baptized as
infants. I have done the same for Baptist ancestors, and
ALL of them had
their children baptised as infants. DaveM is
apparently correct, as per
below.
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:08
PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Adams FALL UPWARD
> From:
"David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Blaine wrote:
> The
Protestant doctrine as I have always understood it
> is that men
both inherit the potential for sin, and are
> born with that sin
upon them, therefore having need of
> Baptism for the remission of
that sin.
>
> Perry wrote:
> This is where you have it
wrong...protestants believe
> only in #2.
>
>
DavidM:
> Perry, there are Protestants who believe in infant
baptism. For example,
> this position is held by Methodists,
Lutherans, Episcopalians and
> Presbyterians. The main original
reformers, such as Martin Luther and
> John Calvin, strongly
believed in infant baptism.
>
> Judy:
> Both Martin
Luther and John Calvin were fresh out of the RCC
> at the time of
the Protestant Reformation and some of this ritual
>
stuck.
>
> DavidM:
> It seems to me that Judy does not
believe in #2 version of Original Sin.
> She said that Jesus would
be guilty if he had any inheritance from Adam.
>
>
Judy:
> Big IF there DavidM. I don't believe Jesus was born with a
spiritual
> inheritance in the first Adam.
>
>
DavidM:
> She has expressed agreement with number 2, but her
comments do
> not seem to follow! ! that. I cannot find any
logical consistency in her
> comments to really know at this time
exactly what she believes about
> original sin and
guilt.
>
> Judy:
> I fail to see why logic is so
important here. I would think consistency
> with scriptural truth
would be of paramount importance in this
>
discussion.
>
> DavidM:
> Judy also has introduced a
term, "spiritual inheritance" from
> Adam. This needs further
explanation as I only perceive in physical
> inheritance from Adam
and nothing spiritual at all.
>
> Judy:
> What can I
say? I was under the impression we were dealing with
> spiritual
realities here. After all deception is a spiritual condition
>
is
> it not. Eve was deceived by the wrong spirit and Adam took no
stand
> but rather chose to go along with her. God is Spirit,
satan is spirit.
> We are discussing the spirit of truth vs the
spirit of error are we not?
> Sure the first Adam was created a
living soul but the second Adam is
> a life-giving Spirit because
the need is a spiritual one.
>
> "We have received the
spirit which is of God that we might know
> the things that are
freely given to us of God which things also we
> speak, not in the
words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the
> Holy Ghost
teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual."
> (1
Corinthians 2:12-14)
>
> Grace and Peace,
>
Judy
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man." (Colossians 4:6)
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