Blaine Upon his resurrection, Jesus was
clearly able to do things he had not done before he was resurrected. That
much we seem to agree upon. He still had his wounds--the wounds (not
scars) in his hands, feet and side. They were his ID, so to
speak. But the disciples could both see and feel him, also
agreed upon by all, right? He said he had both flesh and bones,
right? BUT--he also was able to walk through walls, transport himself long
distances. When he left finally, he "ascended" into heaven, with the
disciples watching--also witnessed by two angels. I assume at this time,
he was also immortal--
It seems clear to me he was much the same as
before he was crucified, but evidently had some powers not mentioned in the
scripture--powers we do not at this time comprehend, and probably won't
until our turn comes to participate in the resurrection from the
dead.
Beyond that I cannot conjecture, unless I
get into Mormon scripture and Mormon doctrine, which says his
resurrected body was the same one that was crucified, but was purified, and
sanctified, giving it powers beyond that of ordinary mortals.
Mormon doctrine says we also will have these powers upon resurrection--the most
significant one being immortality.
BUt the crux of Mormon belief is that the body will be both tangible and of a more spiritual nature--not carnal nor fallen. We
will be more in touch with the Spirit of the Holy Ghost, and therefore more in
tune with God, and therefore happier than either as a spirit alone or as a
spirit united with a mortal, fallen, natural body, as is the case in our present
condition.
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> Hmmm..... I'm not sure how to handle this. If I use the New
> International Translation, it uses the term "ghost" in the relevant
> scriptures, but the King James says "spirit." Let me say it this way:
> Ghost and spirit are the same, but Jesus' spirit body is not the same as
> a ghost or spirit. Is that confusing enough?
>
> In Luke 24:36-43, resurrected Jesus zapped Himself into a group of
> gathered disciples, they were scared because they thought He was a spirit
> (King James) / ghost (NIV). He told them to touch Him, then He ate some
> food. He asked them if a spirit / ghost has flesh and bones, to show that
> He was there in body. The thing to understand is that the resurrected
> body is a spiritual body unlike the natural bodies which we now have (1
> Cor 15:44). That's hard to grasp intellectually, because, imho, it's very
> counterintuitive, but, if we put together the previous scriptures, that's
> what we get. I believe John 3:8 describes a spiritual body which comes
> and goes, but, like the wind, us mortals cannot see it. Note that it says
> we will all be like that.
>
> In summary, we will be like Jesus; we will have immortal, spiritual
> bodies that can fly about (transport, zap themselves, teleport,
> whatever), appear, disappear, etc., but we will not be spirits. God the
> Father is spirit; He doesn't have a body. God the Son has a spiritual
> body. We will have spiritual bodies.
>
> Alright, that's enough for now. There are other scriptures that tie
> in with this, but I have no desire to spend a couple of hours looking for
> them. Those who are interested might want to use a concordance to look up
> "body," "spirit," etc.
>
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 16:19:28 -0700 "Blaine Borrowman"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I have always assumed spirits and ghosts were synonymous.
> > Blaine
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> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual Realities
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:21:31 -0700 "Blaine Borrowman"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > The LDS Church tries to emphasize
> > > > the eternal nature of marriage.
> > >
> > > You say eternal marriage, and Jesus plainly says there is not
> > / will
> > > not be marriage in the kingdom. It's obvious that lds doctrine is
> > in
> > > direct conflict with Jesus.
> > >
> > > > When Christians die, they will live in the
> > > > presence of God in a resurrected body.
> > > > A body of flesh, or a spirit body--a ghost?
> > >
> > > It will be a spirit body like the one that Jesus now has. He
> > entered
> > > and exited locked rooms without difficulty, he ate fish in the
> > presence
> > > of his disciples, Thomas touched His wounds to verify that it
> > really was
> > > the resurrected Jesus and not a ghost.
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> > you may
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