"everyone born of the flesh is born in sin." I think it was Vince who said something like That's right. That's why he had to get the same flesh in him.
Grace and Truth,
Robert
From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Last words on Jesus had the same sinful flesh we have. Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:20:17 -0500
Welcome to TT Pastor Bob at Hotmail, glad to have you with us even if we can't agree. Jesus isn't your blood relative. He was not born after the flesh. Actually you are agreeing with the Pharisees of John 9:24 - the ones who told the man born blind, "we know that this man is a sinner" - No matter how you try to rationalize, everyone born of the flesh is born in sin.
From: "Pastor Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've been watching this discussion for a long time and feel compelled to right you now and give you some encouragement.
Wow! Good stuff, very visual. What a powerful summary of the Gospel of our Lord. You've spent some time in the Word, haven't you? Your association with Jesus' blood running through our veins is especially on the mark. The go'el or "kinsman redeemer" of the OT had to be a blood relative. Jesus is our Redeemer because he is our Blood relative. Through Mary back to Eve and forward again to every one of us. Now we see why Eve is the "giver of life" (that's what her name means). What Jesus did in his flesh, he did in all flesh "One died for all, Therefore all died". He had to be like sinful flesh to condemn sin in the flesh (rom 8:3). And the Son who knew no sin from eternity had to be made sin (nature) so that we could become righteousness in him (II cor 2:21).
Before I go I want to encourage you, Bill. Difficult people abound. You were right in, I think it was your first email. This is a difficult doctrine for dyed-in-the-wool types to grasp. But oh so transformational when they do!
And you're right, the way to deal with difficult people is to forgive them. That is loving them.
Oh, I was really moved by your Psalms 22 interpretation the other day. Keep on teaching. This stuff is contagious.
To His Glory,
Robert Trump
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