Hi DaveH,
We lost the "image of God" when Adam fell and Gen 5:3 teaches us that
Seth who carried the godly seed was born in the image of Adam rather
than the image of God and it goes downhill from there.  All of us are all

born with inherited iniquity from the Fathers and the walk of salvation
is 
a lifetime walk of grace to return to the image we lost in the first
Adam.  
Jesus is the ONLY exception.  He said "If you've seen me you've seen 
the Father and he said it before his death, burial, and resurrection.

judyt


From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DAVEH:  I'm hesitant to jump into another's discussion, but it sure 
seems to me that the simple answer to this may be realized IF one 
considers that children may not be born with sinners, but rather they 
become sinners when they learn to discern right from wrong.....and then 
choose wrong instead of right thereafter.  IMHO, Jesus was born 
innocent, and remained sinless.  On the other hand.....we are born 
innocent, and make choices that cause us to sin.

Judy Taylor wrote:
>You will need to prove it to me by the scriptures pastorbob,
>Yes he needed a flesh body but he didn't need for it to be fallen flesh.
>In fact, fallen flesh would disqualify him to be the only kind of
>sacrifice 
>God the Father would accept, that is one without spot or blemish. The
>OT bulls and goats were part of fallen creation but they were temporary.
>For a start the bloodline of the first Adam would never be called "holy"
>
>Judyt
>
>From: "Pastor Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Greetings jandg,
>
>"everyone born of the flesh is born in sin." I think it was Vince who
>said 
>something like That's right. That's why he had to get the same flesh in
>him.
>
>Grace and Truth,
>
>Robert
>
>  
>

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