King James had a large crew of scholars translate the best texts
available. Each member of the crew checked other member's work. A large
number of people who knew those old languages did the best translation
that they could. All of the other translations were produced by scholars
under similar conditions.

     Nobody knows language on the moroni plates, if they ever existed
anywhere but in old Joe's mind.

     It seems to me that today's bible tranlations have a better claim on
validity than Joe's nebulous claim to having perfectly translated plates
which aren't available for others to examine.

     Joe's situation is similar to mohammed's situation; he was the only
one to have access to the revelations brought to him, and nobody else had
any means to check on him to see if his message was correct.

     I'll stick with my bible in just about any translation. It's
certainly better than moroni's imaginary plates.

vincent j. fulton

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 10:07:59 -0700 "Blaine Borrowman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Blaine:  The story about JS seeing the words cross the stone inside the
hat was never substantiated.  At best, I think he may have used the hat
for effect, probably as a joke, and the rock inside was not a crystal
ball--I have a photo of it, and it is opaque, with several holes in it.  
When Oliver Cowdery tried to translate, nothing happened.  That was
because he had not learned to read the writing by himself.   After JS
learned the language of the Nephites, he ceased using the Urim and
Thummim, depending mostly on inspiration to tell him if his own
interpretations were correct. 
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"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you 
ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org

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