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Blaine: Kevin is right about the apostacies,
wrong about the credibility of the witnessing. The 12 men never denied
their testimonies, even after they had apostasized. Most, including two of
the three witnesses who saw the angel, repented, and rejoined the LDS Church
after it had moved to Utah. The third one, the only one not to rejoin,
continued to accept interviews up to his very deathbed, and maintained
steadfastly he had seen and heard all that he signed his name to. He often
retold the story, never deviating from the original. As usual, Kevin
doesn't give the full story or even relevant facts.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 6:19
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins
found in Kentucky?
These witnesses had no conviction.
The things they "saw" made NO DIFFERENCE in their lives
ALL of the 3 Witnesses APOSTACIZED
(therefore they were witnesses against the power of the BoM)
4 of the eight Apostacied a fifth dying before he had a
chance to, with the last 3 being SMITHS!
More of a witness against the BoM!
The church was founded in 1830 for 5 years they had NO APOSTLES!
How could this be?
In 1835 The Elders laid hands on the 12 to appoint them as
Apostles.
How does one that is a Melch Priest commision an Apostle?
Waiting for your answer. (Put this question with all the others you are
unable to answer)
Your first 12 were not duly appointed which breaks your line of Priests,
& Prophets too!
6 of the first 12 Apostacized!
What is with the bad track record?
In addition the D&C call some of these men "wicked", "to mean
to mention" and says some of them "could not tell a true from a false
revelation"
What a great witness you have there Blaine
Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Blaine: The problem is, you didn't give
it a fair trial. In any court in America (most courts, except maybe in
Southern states where all those Baptists hang out--lol), the
testimony of two witnesses is enough to prove innocence--or guilt. The
BoM has three witnesses who saw the
angel, the gold plates, the sword of Laban, the interpreters (Urim and
thummim), and the compass used by Lehi and his group to guide them to the
Promised Land, called the Liahona--plus eight more
witnesses who saw the gold plates. counting
Joseph Smith himself, that makes a total of 12
witnesses. No court--not even in Alabama--could deny this
record.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:08
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew
Coins found in Kentucky?
How about if we just put the Book of
Mormon on trial, Kevin? OK?
Blaine
It is on trial and is FOUND
WANTING!
Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
How about if we just put the Book of Mormon
on trial, Kevin? OK?
Blaine
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004
1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Old
hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?
Have you TRIED that Spirit Baline?
The scripture says TRY THEM!
PUT THEM ON TRIAL
That is the simple fact. I do not have to prove anything. You
choose to ignore the scriptures to your own Demise!
The reason being is you do not want to give up your faith. You
know that JOe & the Prophets & the Church will not stand
simple scrutiny no less a Trial!
Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 04,
2004 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Old
hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?
Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Blaine: The story about JS
seeing the words cross the stone inside the hat was never
substantiated. At best, I think he may have used the hat
for effect, probably as a joke, and the rock inside was not a
crystal ball--I have a photo of it, and it is opaque, with
several holes in it. When Oliver Cowdery tried to
translate, nothing happened. That was because he had not
learned to read the writing by himself. After JS learned
the language of the Nephites, he ceased using the Urim and
Thummim, depending mostly on inspiration to tell him if his own
interpretations were
correct.
Have you ever considered that the whole thing was a sad
joke?
Not a crystal ball? What was it there for then?
Who taught JOe to read the ball or writing?
Where did the writing come from? Did it just appear, out of
nothing?
I do not think inspiration is the word it would be
revelation. JOe relied on SPIRITual Revelation for a check on
whether it was so. The question is who was the Spirit he
communicated with?
1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try
the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets
are gone out into the world.
Blaine: This scripture (1 John 4:1) admits
the Possibility of spirits that are not of God, but is general in
application. We need to realize that you are the one
actually making the application, Kevin, and so far we have seen no
conclusive evidence your application is the correct one. It
seems to me you are just BUCKING UP against the goad, or kicking
against the pricks, as the Lord said to
Saul.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 01,
2004 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?
He had the help of seducing spirits, an fallen angel or
two and a crystal ball in his hat. Blaine
Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Blaine:
Oh darn! I only wrote one paragraph, and already
an
inconsistency!! I don't know how that Joseph Smith
made it through so many
pages and made the story so
consistent!!
----- Original Message -----
From:
"Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 01,
2004 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins
found in Kentucky?
> I don't quite know how to
respond,Blaine. I had always assumed that
jews
>
WERE white????????????????
> Terry
> -----
Original Message -----
> From: "Blaine Borrowman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March
01, 2004 8:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew
Coins found in Kentucky?
>
>
> >
Wrong!! I have proof there were two old Jews of ancient
vintage
living
> in
> > Utah long before
White man arrived!! Both had long beards, wore skull
>
caps,
> > and had prayer rugs!! One spoke yiddish,
the other one was deaf and
> dumb,
> > but he
could read Hebrew as long as he had his spectacles. The
really
> wierd
> > part is he also had a
battery driven quartz crystal watch, with the
>
numbers
> > in Aramaic.
> >
> >
Blaine
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent:
Saturday, February 28, 2004 11:13 AM
> > Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?
>
>
> >
> > >
> >
>
> > > > Blaine,
> > >
>
> > > > We have discussed on the group
the fact that there is no
> > >
archaeological
> >! ! ! ! ! > > evidence of
early Hebrew civilizations in the Americas.
However,
I
> was
> > > > searching
an extensive index of treasure related magazines and
>
found
> > the
> > > > following
entry:
> > > >
> > > > TYPE
TITLE/AUTHOR
> > > > MG DATE PAGE
>
> > > KY ARCHAEOLOGY FOUND: ANCIENT HEBREW
COINS/HENSON LT
JAN
> 80
> > >
31
> > > >
> > > > "LT" means
"Lost Treasure Magazine". Do you know anything about
>
this
> > > > reported find? I have not tried
to get ahold of the article, so
do
> not
>
> > know
> > > > the nature of the
find. I wonder if the archaeologist consdiered
>
them
> > > > original, or relocated.
>
> > >
> > > > BTW, I was raised in
Kentucky! Do you think I am a Jaredite? :-)
> >
&! amp;! gt; >
> > > > Perry
>
> > >
> > > I was also raised in
Kentucky and can verify that there was an old
> >
Hebrew
> > > living there at the time. Mystery
solved!
> > > Terry
> > >
>
> >
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