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Thanks, Kevin.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:41
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The
Trinity
ECHAD is the word for "Compound United oneness" instead of the word
yachid, "the only one," "alone."
ECHAD is used instead of yachid in places such as Genesis 2:24 where
a man & woman become ECHAD flesh, or ECHAD cluster of grapes
ECHAD is used in Deuteronomy 6:4: "Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God,
the Lord is One." Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Some call it TRI - UNITY
Trinity is a contraction of triUnity
"Wm. Taylor"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank
you!
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Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 5:10
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The
Trinity
Wm. Taylor wrote:
I'm probably going to make you all cringe
a little bit here, and some of you more than a little. By the way, I
hope you don't mind if I butt in. Excuse me, excuse me, coming
through.
The problems, it seems to me, that we get
in to in these "Trinity" discussions arise not because of the
threeness idea of the Trinity but because of the oneness idea we have
about "God." Don't get me wrong here and blow me off before I even get
started. I'm not suggesting that God is not One: "Hear, O Israel: The
LORD our God, the LORD is one!" I think the problem comes in via
the way we think of the word "one" as compared to the Hebrew idea of
one-ness. If when we are thinking about the One God, we are thinking
in terms of something like one mark on a piece of paper, we have
missed the idea of oneness which comes out of the Hebrew mindset. When
Moses wrote, "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is
one!" the word he uses here is the same word that he used
when he wrote, "For this cause a man shall leave his father and his
mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and they shall become one
flesh." The word "One" in a Hebrew mind is relational
language; it is the language of the coming together of a subject and
an object. It means unity before it means
singularity. The singularity of God comes out of the unity
of the Trinity; in other words, the one - ness of God is the unity of
the Father-Son-Holy Spirit relationship. The three are one by way of
relationship. That relationship is so tight, so bounded, so bonded, so
substantive, that to try to distinguish the Father apart from
the Son and Spirit in terms of God-stuff, is impossible. The
Father can only be talked about in relationship to the Son. The Son
the same in relationship to the Father, and on and on. There is
singularity --one God-- because there is unity
--Father-Son-and-Spirit-- first. Hence the one and the three are
not ideas competing for supremacy in our thinking. The one speaks to
the unity of the three.
Hope that wasn't too
convoluted.
Bill Taylor
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Thank you
Bill! That makes sense. Probably the best I have ever heard
it explained. I learned something
today. Terry
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