In a message dated 3/9/2004 1:55:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


we get in to in these "Trinity" discussions arise not because of the threeness idea of the Trinity but because of the oneness idea we have about "God."


Another new guy on the list.  Hi.   

I am thinking that such discussions arise because we insist on speaking in non-biblical terms.   "Trinity" is our word.   "Godhead" is the biblical word.  With  "Godhead" there is little doubt that a bunch of first century flat foots (the 12 apostles) would see a problem that was anywhere close to the first century issue of considering Christ to be God.  Let's not forget that in Old Testament scripture, God Almighty and the Spirit of God are everywhere but the Jews only thought in terms of oneness.   There were no "dualist" nor "trinitarians" in the Pentecost crowd the day of the first Christian sermon.   


A second reason for the confusion (as I understand it) is that God did not chose to explain Himself to us.   Without "official" explanation, we have only conjecture.   Each of the three are there, in the inspired text.     I am afraid that if we try to explain what has not been fully revealed, we give the enemy another target.   

John Smithson

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