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prove it, Bill--ftr, i fined tuned it a
little bit, below :)
Now, now, G. That's taking some
liberty.
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Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:28
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Please hear me
out before ousting me.
Bill, Apparently, your point is
that 'many..Spirit-filled Christians' are stupid, but the
smart Christians are [highly] enraptured with 'personal knowledge
and the tacit dimension'..Thanks--this helps to better understand the conversation/s
you're having here.
I'm not quite sure what you're asking here,
so I'll go in two directions. Firstly, let me say, and I'm sure you will
agree, that Jesus has and continues to influence people who do not believe
he is Messiah. Nevertheless there's no getting away from him. He is
Lord!
Secondly, let me also say that many of our
so-called "Christian" ideas of protocol in ethics, divine attributes,
justice, and logic, are nothing more than Aristotle
baptized and christianized by Thomas Aquinas. It's not just the RCC
who endorses Aquinas. He influenced the Reformed church in a major
way after Calvin passed on. Have you ever heard of Reformed Scholastics?
That was nothing less than a all out effort on the part of
Beza, et al, to synthesize and systematize Calvin under the
rubric of Aquinas. All of that to say that many unsuspecting,
Spirit-filled Christians have been duped into accepting or
rejecting "Christian" ideas, for no other reason than that they
do not realize they are asking their questions from an Aristotelian
framework and not a purely "biblical" one.
Did I get to your question?
Bill
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Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 7:13
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Please
hear me out before ousting me.
no doubt about
(e.g.) Plato's continuing influence on culture/s, Bill; much
different, however, then that of the HS, whose influence
is perhaps *unknown* by comparison--or shall we
say *unexperienced*? any Idea/s why?:)
Hi G,
Actually, if I were to say I
adhere to a philosophy, I would look to the breakthroughs of Michael
Polanyi (dash! a Roman Catholic Jew!), and read all philosophy through
his insights on personal knowledge and the tacit dimension.
I do not prefer Plato or
Aristotle, both wrote from a BC Greek context. I am just saying
it is absolutely the epitome of arrogance and hubris to discount
these guys and think you can live in this world absent their
input. Only Jesus Christ stands in human history as being more
influential to human thought than Plato. Don't be so proud as to think
Plato or Aristotle do not sneak their way into your way of
thinking about Christ. That's all I'm saying.
Thanks,
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004
8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Please
hear me out before ousting me.
ok; but if not
Aristotle's, what are the philosophical premises of your
theology? Do you prefer Plato?
G ~ P
235
Oops, I just sent an archived
post. Sorry, you can disregard it.
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Sent: Thursday, March 04,
2004 10:01 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk]
Please hear me out before ousting me.
>But this is Aristotle!
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