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Bill, Apparently, your point is
that 'many..Spirit-filled Christians' are stupid, but the
smart Christians are enraptured with 'personal knowledge and the tacit
dimension'..Thanks--this
helps to better understand the conversation/s you're having
here.
I'm not quite sure what you're asking here, so
I'll go in two directions. Firstly, let me say, and I'm sure you will agree,
that Jesus has and continues to influence people who do not believe he is
Messiah. Nevertheless there's no getting away from him. He is
Lord!
Secondly, let me also say that many of our
so-called "Christian" ideas of protocol in ethics, divine attributes, justice,
and logic, are nothing more than Aristotle baptized and
christianized by Thomas Aquinas. It's not just the RCC who endorses Aquinas.
He influenced the Reformed church in a major way after Calvin passed on.
Have you ever heard of Reformed Scholastics? That was nothing less than a
all out effort on the part of Beza, et al, to synthesize and
systematize Calvin under the rubric of Aquinas. All of that to say that many
unsuspecting, Spirit-filled Christians have been duped into accepting
or rejecting "Christian" ideas, for no other reason than that they
do not realize they are asking their questions from an Aristotelian framework
and not a purely "biblical" one.
Did I get to your question?
Bill
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Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 7:13
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Please hear me
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no doubt about (e.g.) Plato's
continuing influence on culture/s, Bill; much different, however, then
that of the HS, whose influence is perhaps *unknown* by
comparison--or shall we say *unexperienced*? any Idea/s why?:)
Hi G,
Actually, if I were to say I adhere
to a philosophy, I would look to the breakthroughs of Michael Polanyi
(dash! a Roman Catholic Jew!), and read all philosophy through his
insights on personal knowledge and the tacit dimension.
I do not prefer Plato or Aristotle,
both wrote from a BC Greek context. I am just saying it is
absolutely the epitome of arrogance and hubris to discount these
guys and think you can live in this world absent their input. Only
Jesus Christ stands in human history as being more influential to human
thought than Plato. Don't be so proud as to think Plato or Aristotle do
not sneak their way into your way of thinking about Christ. That's
all I'm saying.
Thanks,
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 8:38
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Please
hear me out before ousting me.
ok; but if not
Aristotle's, what are the philosophical premises of your theology?
Do you prefer Plato?
G ~ P
235
Oops, I just sent an archived
post. Sorry, you can disregard it.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004
10:01 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Please
hear me out before ousting me.
>But this is Aristotle!
G ~ P 235
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