Re: [TruthTalk] Please hear me out before ousting me.

[Wm. Taylor]

I'm not quite sure what you're asking here, so I'll go in two directions. Firstly, let me say, and I'm sure you will agree, that Jesus has and continues to influence people who do not believe he is Messiah. Nevertheless there's no getting away from him. He is Lord!   Secondly, let me also say that many of our so-called "Christian" ideas of protocol in ethics, divine attributes, justice, and logic, are nothing more than Aristotle baptized and christianized by Thomas Aquinas. It's not just the RCC who endorses Aquinas. He influenced the Reformed church in a major way after Calvin passed on. Have you ever heard of Reformed Scholastics? That was nothing less than a all out effort on the part of Beza, et al, to synthesize and systematize Calvin under the rubric of Aquinas. All of that to say that many unsuspecting, Spirit-filled Christians have been duped into accepting or rejecting "Christian" ideas, for no other reason than that they do not realize they are asking their questions from an Aristotelian framework and not a purely "biblical" one.   Did I get to your question?   Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Please hear me out before ousting me. no doubt about (e.g.) Plato's continuing influence on culture/s, Bill; much different, however, then that of the HS, whose influence is perhaps *unknown* by comparison--or shall we say *unexperienced*? any Idea/s why?:)     On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:40:40 -0700 "Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi G,   Actually, if I were to say I adhere to a philosophy, I would look to the breakthroughs of Michael Polanyi (dash! a Roman Catholic Jew!), and read all philosophy through his insights on personal knowledge and the tacit dimension.   I do not prefer Plato or Aristotle, both wrote from a BC Greek context. I am just saying it is absolutely the epitome of arrogance and hubris to discount these guys and think you can live in this world absent their input. Only Jesus Christ stands in human history as being more influential to human thought than Plato. Don't be so proud as to think Plato or Aristotle do not sneak their way into your way of thinking about Christ. That's all I'm saying.    Thanks,     Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Please hear me out before ousting me. ok; but if not Aristotle's, what are the philosophical premises of your theology? Do you prefer Plato? G ~ P 235   On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 06:26:39 -0700 "Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Oops, I just sent an archived post. Sorry, you can disregard it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Wm. Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:01 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] Please hear me out before ousting me.   >But this is Aristotle!   G ~ P 235