[TruthTalk] Access to Absolute Right and Wrong

[Judy Taylor]

From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Imagine yourself at the steps of the courthouse in San Francisco. Out comes Rosie O'Donnel and a Christian says to her: "What you are doing is wrong in the eyes of God". Will Rosie's conscience bother her? Why? Lance jt: No, Rosie believes the lie and so her conscience is twisted or bent.  However, those who have come to the light and who are serving Jesus should be walking in the light and society should not be what determines the operation of their conscience toward God.  jt     From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Conscience is determined by the conventions of a social grouping as I see it. Example: Same sex marriage     jt: Lance, do you make no distinction between the holy and the profane? the righteous vs unrighteous etc?  Same sex marriage is for the condemned who will not come to the light because their deeds are evil.  jt   From: Judy Taylor OK Lance, I'm asking, What did you mean?  jt   From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NOPE! You shouldn't use the words "say" and "mean" interchangeably, Judy. You've missed my meaning again. If you require clarification so as to respond to what I did mean then, just ask. Thanks, Lance   jt: Then what you are saying Lance is that God is unreasonable and unjust because he expects something from us that we are incapable of.  His standard is too high and we remain deceived and helpless, creatures of darkness.  Before you say that Jesus is the answer and we are OK because of what he did remember that Jesus is part of the Godhead and God is one.  He is not the minister of sin. jt   From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Absolute right & wrong. lance     [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The conscience of "fallen" HK (Human kind) does not have veridical (coinciding with reality) access.     john: I understand "veridical"  --  but access to what?