Re: [TruthTalk] false notions

[Dave]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2004 5:07:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > [DaveH wrote another:] subtle justification for liars lying based ..you really don't give a flip about any who disagree with you Currently, there is some discussion regarding ad-hominen attacks.  Much more of it is used that some seem to believe.  It seems to me that your comments above are just that.  "Liar" is a word that places us into two opposing enemy camps and pretty much spells the end to any real exchange. DAVEH:  I've seen quite a bit of this kind of talk used in TT, John.......And, it seems to often times be directed at me.   I think it is used not only as a put down, but also do raise the level of discussion in hopes of getting the opponent to lose control and reveal their inner selves.  To me, the use of liar is often meant to be inflammatory and draw a reaction.  I suppose that unchristian reaction might then be used to show unsavory character traits.  I could be wrong, but that's the way I view it.   I know on the rare occasion when I go ad hominen, it is out of that very conclusion --  that we are not on the same page and have little to nothing in common regarding whatever the present discussion might be.   I seriously do not see you as ignorant.   You write as one having something to say.  I enjoy your opposng views.  The wise guy stuff does appear to be beneath your abilities.   I am one who is actually very accomplished at slamming the other guy.  And I enjoy it, I must admit.   So I have asked one in this list to be my coach in that matter and when I get a little too cute, he/she will give me a caution.  That is how I try to deal with it.  The fact that I enjoy "one-upping"  is no reason to bring that practice into this list.  Anyway, that is my take on that.   John -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain Five email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF and MOTORCYCLE.