jt: I'd like to submit the following as the reason why so many don't believe
in "Christian Perfection"  "And that which fell among the thorns are they
which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and
riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection" 
(Luke 8:14)
 
john: This completely begs the question and insults everyone on this list
who disagrees.   It is an assertion that there is no such thing as honest
debate on this issue.  John
 
jt: I can't imagine why the Word of God would insult anyone other than
a reprobate, or for that matter be accused of begging the question. We
can find out what the fruit are in Galatians 5:22,23 and from the above
we can know that when God's Word falls among thorns in a person's
heart no fruit will be brought to perfection in that person's life.  No
debate about it.
 
Why cling to doctrines that will never conform you to godliness and/or
holiness? Sure you can debate until the cows come home but for what
purpose?  It's possible to be honestly deceived.
 
judyt

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