jt: Lance what difference does it make what you, I, or anyone thinks?
What should be important to all of us is what God thinks. Why are you
threatened by scripture? What's wrong with finding out what these
terms mean in God's vernacular. You don't need a Phd, He explains
it very clearly. So am I free to show you BY scripture? judyt
What do people in your church do for fellowship -- just sit around quoting scripture.
John
