In a message dated 4/10/2004 8:17:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Why cling to doctrines that will never conform you to godliness and/or
holiness?


Why do you say that salvation by grace apart from works is a false doctrine?  I  don't go out and live like  hell knowing that God will save me anyway.  When James speaks wof justification by works, he has in mind something very different than Paul's use of "works."    I believe that James knows that faith comes first and works are anextention of that faith, proving it (faith) to be alive and viable.   But salvation is secured at the point of faith.  

John

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