Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

[Dave]

Terry Clifton wrote: Dave wrote: So Terry, do you think a saved Christian who converts to Mormonism has lost their salvation? ========================================================= God's ways are beyond my understanding Dave.  Some places in the Bible make it look as though God will accept about anyone, no matter how screwed up their theology, as long as they have even a little faith.  Other places indicate that God is big on obedience, and you better do it His way or go to Hell.  Since there is no more important item on my list than spending eternity with my Lord (and avoiding Hell), I generally tend to go with the be obedient route. Why take chances?  Paul told those who were calling themselves Christians, yet trying to gain favor with God by keeping the law , that they had "Fallen from Grace".  In my opinion, Mormons do the same thing with the same result.  Adding to the requirement for salvation says that Jesus alone is not enough.  DAVEH:  You are suggesting LDS theology adds to the requirements, yet you seem to have requirements for salvation too, do you not Terry?  It seems to be a matter of where the line is drawn in your theological world.  In the LDS realm, grace is the action Jesus did (I don't think I worded it very well) that makes it possible for us to be saved.  Had he not atoned for our sins, nor been resurrected so we too can enjoy that gift.....then nothing we could do on our own could bring salvation to ourselves.  Therefore.....it is by the grace of Jesus we are saved.  That does not mean we do not have to meet certain requirements as many Christians believe.  Jesus gave the requirements....and as I see it, many Christians want to minimize the importance and necessity of some of those requirements. I would hope that the Lord sees you as confused but sincere, and allows you to spend eternity with Him, but I sure would not bet on it, as your whole system of belief contradicts much of God's word.  DAVEH:  I respectfully disagree. No hard feelings, just the truth as I am able to see it. DAVEH:  I understand.  And that is why I ask the questions I do.....I am curious as to why you believe the way you do, Terry. Terry -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain Five email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF and MOTORCYCLE.