RE: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature

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Michael, I agree. John 16:24   "Until now you have asked for nothing in My name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be made full”.   Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of michael douglas Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/13/2004 3:23:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with this conclusion.  I do not think that it excludes God's interdiction or His cooperative involvement affecting the course of nature.  But, I do not believe that He so involves Himself as a rule of action.     He is the one who created nature, weather, and the laws of function that govern both venues.   Michael D: Yes, God created the universe etc, but one must remember that an alien invaded the 'universe' and has brought chaos and disorder into the mix. This alien is our enemy, and we would do well to recognize when he is operating or trying to operate and resist him. Paul established that precedent when he mentioned to the Corinthians that he and they weren't ignorant of his devices, and therefore their actions should be guided by that fact. Remember Jesus gave us power over ALL the power of the enemy.  And James said to resist him and he will flee from you. Now, I'm not sure if folks are suggesting that we allow ourselves to be battered, so that others don't get battered, but if so, I wouldn't see the sense in that. The idea is to pray for others in their plight. Folks can rest assured that if it were not God's will, any attempts to get protection from storms would be futile. So as far as wanting God's will to be done, that makes it very clear where our relating to that is. The idea is that we should not be fatalistic regarding these serious issues. Hosea said that God's people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, and I realize that this applies to many believers (I say this humbly...). Most folks don't believe that they have that kind of access to God for this kind of intervention. My sharing these things is out of concern for the potential suffering that folks would experience, while knowing there is a way out. I do hope that folks will take up the challenge to press in to this area, and access the faith to where they might be able to kill the storms before they do damage at all. While I am really sad for the damage that has occurred, I see that God has responded to our faith and spared the very areas we were targeting in prayer. I see this as God confirming His word to us with signs following, showing us all that this is something we all need to awake to and to pass on to the others that we are supposed to love as ourselves so that they too can be spared the ravages of enemy-manipulated nature. There is some explanation for the fallout that has occurred due to the storm diverting away from Tampa et al, but I can't do that at the moment. Anyway, it is good to see that Slade & co.  and Terry are alright.  I do hope David and his family are as well. Thank Godfor His mercy. Why do we have hard times?  Why do we get sick and die.  Why are loved ones  so affected? Why is old age so pervasive as it seemingly seeks our demise?   To get us ready to let go  -- to move on tp the spiritual destinies God has instore for us.   To complete what was not finished with  the initial creation of man.   John ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!