Jonathan as JH2.

Jonathan Hughes


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Lance writes:
Bill Clinton was a 'better' president thant 'Gdubya'. Given that choice
I'd vote for Bill.

jt: So Lance you would choose gross immorality over morality in a
National leader? Do you realize that the parents of grade school
children in this country were put in the position of having to explain
oral sex them whether they wanted to or not because of the evening news.
You would rather have a known perjurer, someone who lied under oath and
played word games. I know he carried a big Bible but that doesn't mean
anything - his actions made a much louder statement.

JH:  There are other things that are just as bad as sexual immorality.
George Bush has those in spades.  Bush is far more immoral than Clinton,
just not in the sexual realm.  No one plays word games better than Bush.
By the way when are you going to answer my question on whether you think
Bush knows the same God as you do since he equates his with Allah?

judyt: I would have to hear a whole lot more coming from him than that
one statement about Allah. He may not be an expert on Islam and may
mistakenly see Muslims as children of Abraham through Ishmael.. and why
would you have a problem with that? looks to me like it would blend
perfectly with your "incarnational theory"

JH2:  You can read a whole lot more on this than just his one statement
if you ever wish to.  It is all there.  I never said I had a problem
with it.  I have kept my opinon on the topic to myself.  I wondered why
you would not have a problem with it considering I think you view
yourself as the heresy checker on this forum.  The same vigilant attacks
you make on Lance and I are not made on Bush.  It exposes the hypocrisy
that you hold.

I don't condemn Bill Clinton, IMO he is a troubled soul who didn't have
much of a childhood but he did have a burning ambition without the moral
fortitude to withstand the accompanying temptations and he is now driven
by addictions and personal demons. What IYO made him a "better
President"? Is it the fact that he did nothing when challenged other
than lob a few missiles into the air?

JH:  It is a fact that he did more than just lob a few missles into the
air.  Read up on your history instead of just grabbing a few partisan
lines.

judyt: I'm aware of a lot more than a few "partisan lines" Like Izzy we
were very, very uncomfortable during the Clinton administration. He sent
troops all over the world willy nilly - did nothing when some of our
troops were publicly disgraced - their dead bodies being dragged through
the streets of Somalia or when terrorists bombed the USS Cole in Yemen.
He did nothing when Sudan offered him Osama Bin Laden on a platter but
former President Clinton did bomb an Aspirin Factory and a Plant that
made powdered milk in Iraq.  Our son was in the National Guard during
his watch; and could have been sent to Bosnia or Haiti. We are a retired
Navy family and I know the disregard and disrespect Clinton is held in
by the US Military.  jt

JH2:  Tis a very selective view of history.  There is far more than what
you narrate above.  Note I am not claiming that Clinton acted perfectly
in his foreign policy.  I am claiming that he did much better than Bush.
Hold back judgment until you read it all.  Otherwise stop throwing the
stones.




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