RE: [TruthTalk] Read it and weep!

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Lance, God desires for His children to understand scripture. That is why He gives us the power of His indwelling Holy Spirit.   But Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God. (Matt 22:29)   Jesus said to them, "Is this not the reason you are mistaken, that you do not understand the Scriptures or the power of God? (Mark 12:24)   Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures. (Luke 24:45)   All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness.(II Tim 3:16)   ...in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. (II Peter 3:46-48)   Izzy   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Read it and weep!   But seriously folks......Just what does that _expression_ "The Scriptures teach that..." actually mean?� Am I the only one smiling on certain occasions, saddened on others, and even angered at the presumptuousness on yet further occasions?   ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: October 03, 2004 08:33 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Read it and weep!     >  > Hi John: > I don't think either Izzy or I am saying what you appear to be responding to. I have no idea what your "unbiblical doctrine of holiness and perfectionism" is, probably a CofC thing. The scriptures teach that "without holiness it is impossible to please God" and that "without holiness noone will see the Lord" So what do you have against it?� As for Greek tenses and verbs - the Holy Spirit can communicate with or without them - all Greeks are not saved are they? > judyt >  > In a message dated 10/2/2004 7:05:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Funny, I keep looking at my Bibles, and NONE of them say what you say they do.� Go figure! (Where were you when they were translating it?) Izzy >  >  > You test the bounds of politeness. >  > What is wrong, Izzy, is that you do not admit to the most basic of grammartical rule. >  > Actually, I will say this:�� you cannot admit to the truth of the grammatical rule discussed below -- so you dismiss it while pretending that what I say below is of no account.�� And, walla,� the unbiblical teaching of holiness perfectionism withstands the onslaught. >  >  > This explains the matter. >  >  > You might check my comments out in an English grammar before you so casually disgard them. > MY Bible does not say �?oand keep on falling short of the glory�?��?�� � Sure it does.  The verb in the greek ("fall short" )  is a present tense verb.�   The action of present tense is linear or contining action.� � � "  I breath to maintain life"  is the same as "I am breathing to maintain life."� � �   "I am eating my food" is present tense.�   "....are falling short of the glory of God ... " is present tense.  You do not have to be a greek student to understand "present tense."�   There is no discussion of this  --  it is a very simple fact of grammar.� >  >  > JD > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man."� (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org >  > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.� If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.     ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man."� (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org   If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.� If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.