Suzy.  Wow.  And I am accused of being sensitive on this board!  No need to
bow out.  I just suggested to you that there was more to it than you at
first thought.  In other words, extend the grace you have given to David to
John as well.

Furthermore the archives of this list are located at
http://www.mail-archive.com/truthtalk%40mail.innglory.org/index.html

You do not need to take my side in this at all.  You do need to be aware
that there is more than one side.

David (the owner of this list) often takes breaks - up to three or four
months at a time.  His not posting is not a result of any comments made on
the board.  David is a big boy and can easily take care of himself.  And for
the record I did not accuse you of being a devotee of the sainted David.
Please read more carefully before you state such things.  That discussion
was with Lance and John, not me.

JBH

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Petersen
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 10:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Gospel

Of course, I would not know the long history and I
have no archives to look back on since I just signed
up. What I saw as a newcomer is people arguing not
discussing. And why were they arguing because they
would not listen to the other when he claimed that He
did not have an attitude. They are arguing because the
other is trying to have them explain their point so
that they could understand.

I'm sorry if your feelings are hurt because I did not
take your side so to speak. If I have spoken in error
I apologize. I, in no way, was out to be a "judge." 

I will bow out of this conversation since my newcomer
input is not welcome. You may continue to agrue if you
like. Let me just point out one thing before I leave
this conversation. David has not posted since you
accused him of being the sainted and that I was one of
his devotees.

Suzy

Suzy 
--- Jonathan Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Suzy,
> 
> I am not sure what your purpose is here.  You have
> been on the forum for
> about 5 or 6 days and have jumped right into a
> discussion that has a very
> long history.  A certain edge has built up during
> this conversation they
> have been having.  Both of them have to communicate
> through this edge.  You
> seem to be able to see John's edge but not David's. 
> When Lance points this
> out you jump on him and send some judgment his way. 
> I would suggest reading
> some of the archives so that you may understand what
> is happening from both
> sides here.
> 
> Questioning people's salvation has become a
> recurring theme on this forum
> for one of its cliques.   They believe that it is a
> nice and effective
> tactic.  In reality, it is a hindrance to dialogue. 
> Knowing that this has
> been going on for months may help you understand
> John's reaction to David
> questioning John's grasp of the gospel.  It is like
> an iceberg; a raw edged
> tip is above the water but much more lurks beneath.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Susan Petersen
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 4:01 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Gospel
> 
> That would be an invalid experiment because you are
> excluding David's explanation of what he said. It
> was
> offensive to you after you read it. But after David
> explained himself you rejected his explanation. Take
> him at his word. Believe that he meant it as an
> honest
> question so that he could better understand where
> you
> were coming from. Iron sharpens iron. And I am sure
> that hurts when it is done. I have felt it.
> 
> Suzy
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > In a message dated 11/13/2004 7:45:51 AM Pacific
> > Standard Time, 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 
> > > Is it possible that you have never
> > > >>>>truly heard the gospel yourself?
> > > 
> > 
> > Suzy  -  let's try an experiment.   Take that
> > question, write it down exactly 
> > as it is written, tell you unsuspecting friends
> that
> > someone on an email 
> > group presented this question to you and ask them
> > what they think it means?  
> > 
> > Wanna bet no one will come up with anything
> similar
> > to DM explanation?  
> > 
> > John
> > 
> 
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