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From: David Miller
Subject: [TruthTalk] Is Truth always rational?

DAVIDM -- You guys are not giving me much to go on in terms of what you find
unacceptable with my statement. What is "foolishness of Messiah"?  Messiah
is not foolish, nor is he irrational. Are you perhaps referring to the
"foolishness of preaching" mentioned in 1 Cor. 1:18? Even here, this passage
does not mean that the preaching of the cross is irrational. Rather, it
speaks of how it APPEARS irrational to the Greeks who seek after wisdom.

SLADE -- Yes, David. This is one such passage. There are other things that I
refer to. Rational thought "contradicts" Scripture often. Rationalists
believe the Fossil record proves Evolution. I believe it to prove Creation.
The belief in a God who dies for "sin" and resurrects to prove his Godhood
is idiocy in the extreme to the rationalist. These are where the rational
mind is unable to comprehend the simple things of Scripture.... whether
they're real or imagined is immaterial. You also wisely mention the "cross
appears irrational."
     You said, "Now revelation might initially appear irrational if it runs
contrary to our general system of understanding. However, if the revelation
is true, it must by necessity be logical." -- How does one deal with
miracles like walking on water, raising the dead, instantaneous dramatic
healing?

DAVID -- "Therefore, while faith and revelation play an important part in
obtaining truth, the truth that they obtain will not be illogical and
irrational. If any concept discovered through this process is found to be
illogical and irrational, then it was obtained by presumption and
imagination instead of faith and revelation. It is not truth."

SLADE -- I agree, but try convincing the rational humanist of this. He will
walk over you (or at least try) with his brand of logic... the logic will
work in HIS mind!

--slade who doesn't want to fight over semantics of deductive/inductive
reasoning.

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