Right on, Slade. There is a way of knowing that is both distinct from and broader than accepted categories of reason. Or as Pascal put it, "The heart has its reasons, that reason cannot know."
Moreover, it is faith and not logic that is the requisite to all meaningful discourse, even when the object of that faith is something other than Jesus Christ himself. Now, how illogical is that? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 7:57 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is Truth always rational? > -----Original Message----- > From: David Miller > Subject: [TruthTalk] Is Truth always rational? > > DAVIDM -- You guys are not giving me much to go on in terms of what you find > unacceptable with my statement. What is "foolishness of Messiah"? Messiah > is not foolish, nor is he irrational. Are you perhaps referring to the > "foolishness of preaching" mentioned in 1 Cor. 1:18? Even here, this passage > does not mean that the preaching of the cross is irrational. Rather, it > speaks of how it APPEARS irrational to the Greeks who seek after wisdom. > > SLADE -- Yes, David. This is one such passage. There are other things that I > refer to. Rational thought "contradicts" Scripture often. Rationalists > believe the Fossil record proves Evolution. I believe it to prove Creation. > The belief in a God who dies for "sin" and resurrects to prove his Godhood > is idiocy in the extreme to the rationalist. These are where the rational > mind is unable to comprehend the simple things of Scripture.... whether > they're real or imagined is immaterial. You also wisely mention the "cross > appears irrational." > You said, "Now revelation might initially appear irrational if it runs > contrary to our general system of understanding. However, if the revelation > is true, it must by necessity be logical." -- How does one deal with > miracles like walking on water, raising the dead, instantaneous dramatic > healing? > > DAVID -- "Therefore, while faith and revelation play an important part in > obtaining truth, the truth that they obtain will not be illogical and > irrational. If any concept discovered through this process is found to be > illogical and irrational, then it was obtained by presumption and > imagination instead of faith and revelation. It is not truth." > > SLADE -- I agree, but try convincing the rational humanist of this. He will > walk over you (or at least try) with his brand of logic... the logic will > work in HIS mind! > > --slade who doesn't want to fight over semantics of deductive/inductive > reasoning. > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
