I respectfully disagree. I think an apostate Pharisee is one who disbands with Torah and says it is of no effect or no importance.
 
The reason: Paul, even when he was noted as believing in Messiah, was allowed to engage conversation within the Synagogue. This would not be allowed for an apostate.
 
-- slade
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Allow me to do a hats off to Slade for his profound play on words -- crystal-myth. Too good  !!!!!!

It seems to me that a Pharisee who believes in the Christ, would be considered "apostate" by definition. Within the Messianic community of believers (is there another term?), I can see a continued respect for the (converted) Pharisee, but in the larger Jewish community, he would be considered apostate, would he not?  


John


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