POINT 1: Are you suggesting, David, that there was something out of line in this post that's above and beyond a certain level that I need to be aware of? Is Jonathan's reference to an erroneous theology being just plain stupid any worse than the near-daily dose of anti-liberal rhetoric? If certain mindsets are OK to slam dunk and others are sacred cows, I need to know this so I can properly monitor.
POINT 2: While I understand you think the teaching needs to focus on different words, I think it's unfair to assume Jonathan is intentionally throwing up a "big smoke screen to trick those who don't study Greek." In fact, your wording below seems to be maligning Jonathan's character in the same way Jonathan's maligned Izzy's, and Izzy with "The Liberals." -- slade -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Monday, 13 December, 2004 21.31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor Jonathan, I'm glad to see you posting again. I would be interested in discussing this Judas thing if you are, but I'm a little bit intimidated that I might be maligned for having a different opinion. You really did not need to be so hard on attacking Izzy's character. Are you interested in discussing the idea of Judas being lost or not? In regards to your comments on the passage that Izzy brought up (John 17:12), all that Greek analysis of the words translated keep are not really relevant. That whole discussion seems like a big smoke screen to trick those who don't study Greek. The important word is "lost" / "perished" (Greek = "apollumi") and also the phrase, "son of perdition" (a distinctly apocolyptic phrase important in the study of prophecy). These are the hot words in the passage. Do you want to talk about it? There are some other passages that have important bearing on this concept also. Let me know if you have any interest. As far as I am concerned, the idea that Judas is damned to hell fire is a slam dunk. Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
