IFF DM were to have written this otherwise, it might have read as follows: Romans 7&8 as I and, some others interpret them teach a form of dualism. However, some of the better godly NT scholars in the world do not so interpret these chapters. (i.e. NTWright, Gordon Fee). So then my (David speaking) take on this may in fact be quite incorrect.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: December 22, 2004 10:39 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TOE revisited > Slade wrote: > > DavidM twists what I say into comments like > > "don't you understand Roman 7 & 8" in order > > for me to consider passages that might be likewise > > misconstrued in the Real World. > > You greatly misunderstand me, Slade. Romans 7 & 8 teach the Greek dualism > of man. Paul was an apostle to the Gentiles, a group of people who were > more familiar with Plato and Aristotle than Abraham and Moses. All the buzz > words are there that shows Paul to side more with the doctrine of the > Greeks, the Pharisees, and Yeshua, rather than the general Hebrew mindset > established by the Sadducean sect of the Hebrews. If you do not see any > distinction in man between flesh and mind and spirit, then it seems from my > perspective that you would find these two chapters of the Bible to be very > difficult to understand. If that is not the case, then my comment was a > brief invitation for you to share your perspective on these chapters. Of > course, your answer of just saying that they don' t pose any challenge to > you is very helpful to me as well. It helps me keep my mind open to hearing > other things that you might say that would give me some glimmer of > understanding of your viewpoint. > > Personally, I cannot understand how the Sadducees cannot believe in the > spirit of man and in angels. I find some of your stated beliefs equally > perplexing and hope that one day you will feel comfortable enough to share > with us in the spirit of meekness what you believe. > > Slade wrote: > > He likewise is here to show how people will > > take the Hebrew Mindset argument and spin > > it around and claim that I claim superiority. > > Again, you grossly misunderstand my comments. I did not have you in mind > regarding this point. I almost mentioned you as an exception, and now I > wish I did. I had in mind the Hebrews of Christ's day and also other > Messianics and Jews who believe in Jesus. I have been very pleased to see > you able to correspond with others in this forum who use Hellenized or Latin > nouns. I consider you to be very moderate in regards to my comments and > truly an exception, not an example. > > If you go back and read my post, you will see that I was not talking about > you. I mentioned your name only in the beginning as someone who has > expressed some Sadducean viewpoints, such as in your eschatology of not > having "heaven" in view. That is all. There were no ad hominem arguments > made. I was characterizing a particular movement in our country which puts > the Hebrew mindset upon a pedestal and mentioning some extremes that to my > knowledge do not include you. Please try not to take my comments about > others so personally. > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
