jt: He was the Word of God from the
foundation of the world. He became a son
at the incarnation when God provided Him a body. He was begotten, not made and His blood was/is the eternal blood
of the New Covenant which is non sectarian
in spite of the fact that
He was born under the law of Moses to a
young Jewish girl -
To the contrary, Judy:
As far back as God goes, the Word was God --
- "In beginning was the
Word, and the Word was with the God, and God was the
Word." (John 1.1 -- wooden literal translation)
The Word "became
flesh." (see John 1.14)
But he was always the Son; i.e., he is the eternal
Son --
- "Jesus answered, 'If I
honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you
say that He is your God.' ... Jesus said to them, 'Most assuredly, I say to
you, before Abraham was, I AM.'" (John 8.54,58)
- "And now, O Father,
glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before
the world was." (John 17.5)
- "Father, I desire that
they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My
glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the
world." (John 17.24)
He was a Jew from the Seed (sperma -- Literally "sperm")
of Abraham --
- "Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises
made. He does not say, 'And to seeds,' as of many, but as of one, 'And to your
Seed,' who is Christ." (Galatians 3.16)
He was a Jew from the fruit of David's body (karpou tes
osphuos autou -- Literally the "fruit of his genitals") --
-
"Men and brethren, let me speak
freely to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his
tomb is with us to this day. Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing
that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body,
according to the flesh, He would raise up the Christ to sit on his
throne, he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the
Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see
corruption. This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all
witnesses. Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having
received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this
which you now see and hear. For David did not ascend into the heavens,
but he says himself: 'The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right
hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."' Therefore let all
the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you
crucified, both Lord and Christ." (Acts 2.29-36)
Judy, in all sincerity may I suggest that you not push this one.
You are treading on sacred ground. At the same time you are bordering on denying
both the full divinity of Christ and his human heritage. Jesus Christ is
the eternal Son of the Father, the Word of God; he is also fully
human, born of a Jewish woman of the line of David, Jacob, Isaac, and
Abraham. Please reconsider what you are saying. This one is too important
to deny.
Sincerely, your brother,
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 9:30
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mind of
Christ
jt: He was the Word of God from the foundation of the
world.
He became a son at the incarnation when God provided
Him a body.
He was begotten, not made and His blood was/is the
eternal blood
of the New Covenant which is non sectarian in spite
of the fact that
He was born under the law of Moses to a young Jewish
girl -
He was the Son of the Father, the Word who was
with God and was God "in beginning," and when he appeared in a flesh
body, he had Jewish blood running through his veins.
Bill
jt: Actually He was the
Word of the Father, who, in the fullness of time, appeared among us in a
flesh body.
I AM attempting to get rooted in That Mind! Was Messiah
a Greek or Hebrew? - slade
jt: Slade and Lance, is there any good reason
why we can not forget about both Greek and Hebrew
mindsets and begin to focus upon and discuss
"the mind of Christ"? jht
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