Re: [TruthTalk] The logical nature of Truth

[Bill Taylor]

David,   Did you notice the smiley face after my comment? That was supposed to indicate a light-heartedness about my words. You seem to imply that a conclusion such as the ones drawn below can only be derived via a non sequitor. Just for the sake of argument, What if God did send his eternal Son into the world, would the Text be illogical in stating that truth in words like "God sent his Son into the world"?   I am not as convinced as you that all the arguments you deemed non sequitors are indeed non sequitors. In my opinion, the following is not a non sequitor: "But when the time had fully come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law" (Galatians 4:4).  Jesus was God's Son when He was "sent forth" from the Father to be born of woman.  Christ did not become God's Son at His human birth, He already was God's Son!   In reference to this bullet you gave an analogous example of the non sequitor fallacy and then you asked the question: "So why would anyone think that the phrase, "God sent forth his son" would mean that he was functioning in the role of son of God from eternity past?" The answer is contained in the verse itself: it was at a particular point in time, i.e., "when the time had fully come," that God sent forth this Son. Here you have a Father and a Son and a specific point in time when the Father sends his Son. The only reason to argue that this is a non sequitor is if you are prejudiced against the idea that the Father could have an eternal Son, since this verse argues as decisively for a pre-existent son as Ps 2.7 might be understood to argue for a temporal Son; after all, in 2.7 you have the same variables: a Father, a Son, and a specific point in time, when the Father begets the Son. One must examine the weight of the evidence one over against the other to conclude which of these verses clarifies the other. I believe it is reasonable to conclude, given the language of these other Son-sent passages as well as Hebrews 1.2 ("through whom he made the universe") and many other passages, that God did send his eternally divine Son into the world in the fullness of time to save sinners. When I consider further that Ps 2.7 is also quoted in Acts 13.33 in the context of Jesus' resurrection, I am made all the more confident in my conclusion.   Blessings,   Bill     ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:15 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] The logical nature of Truth > Bill Taylor wrote: > > God is sure into those non sequiturs it seems :>) > > Oh, no.  You aren't taking the position of Lance that truth is sometimes > irrational and illogical, are you?  :-) > > God is not into non sequiturs, but some people try and interpret the Bible > using logical fallacies.  I learned right here on TruthTalk that some people > believe truth is illogical.  I'm still chewing on that one. > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.  If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > >