Re: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth

[Terry Clifton]

Jeff Powers wrote: Exactly! They chose not to be sons and daughters of their own free will. Just as God is Father and creator of ha Satan! Read your Bible, ha Satan was the most beautiful creation of the Father, yet he got arrogant and stupid. The result: ha Satan has been cut off. Jef========================================= I see it a little differntly Jeff.  Satan was God's creation, not His child.  A potter and pot relationship, not Father/son.  He did, as you say, reject God.  We, on the other hand, are born in sin and are lost from the get go without rejecting Him.  We are saved by accepting Him. A matter of terminology, to some extent. Terry