Lance wrote: > Generally speaking, I believe it a good practice > not to ask questions to which you already know > the answer. The 'sainted one' of California did not > find the answer to his question 'obvious' so, David, > why not just answer? Someone, maybe St. John > himself, alluded yesterday to a kind of 'gamesmanship' > on your part. Funny, but I did the same thing with two > others in the last couple of days. If, David, this is a > 'game' to you then, let us in it in order that we too can > 'play'
Ah, Lance, you stepped in it big time. The answer to your query was in a previous post to Izzy, where I said that I was going to start giving some cryptic answers in the manner that I have received answers. Izzy was complaining about having too work to hard to get answers to questions. I understand her frustration, and I thought if I gave it back, the point would be made. You made this point perfectly in the sentence above. Apparently, you and Izzy agree that answers posted here should not be so cryptic. In fact, what you wrote above is one of the most clear, understandable posts I have ever read from you. Thank you. Alas, Slade has more accurately perceived the folly of my experiment and perceives the persistence of a "we" versus "them" mentality if I were to follow it. Therefore, upon the correction of our beloved moderator, I have repented. The answer to why I perceived the evolutionary mindset within you is because you stated that you believed that the Incarnation would have proceeded whether or not Adam had sinned. This is the evolutionary paradigm, that what exists today is greater than what existed yesterday. The evolutionary paradigm sees the time of Adam as a lesser time, a time when man was primitive and weak, but through time, lots of time, small steps lead to a greater stage, and so man today exists at the pinnacle of the evolutionary process, as the greatest he has ever been. Today, man lives longer and is wiser and will continue to become greater. The creationist paradigm is that man was created strong and wise at the time of Adam. Adam sinned and thrust man into a pattern of sinning, sickness, and death. Man could never climb back out of this predicament on his own, but rather, he needs a Savior. So the transgression of Adam created a need for redemption, and part of the work of Christ was to restore man from the results of this fall of man. This is why healing and being set free of sin and death are elements of the gospel of Christ. Personally, I believe the evolutionary paradigm is a doctrine of devils, which is why I am very curious as to what exegetical problems you perceive to exist for the creationist paradigm. Peace be with you. David Miller. p.s. I thought John was talking about the Israelite, King David, when he was talking about gamemanship. Did I misunderstand you John? ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
