For the record there is nothing in Lance's post that even comes close to suggesting evolutionary theory.
What Lance is referring to is a point made by Duns Scotus (1266-1308) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duns_Scotus) who suggested that the incarnation would still have occurred even if sin had not entered the equation. In other words there is much more to Jesus Christ than just the taking care of sin. On the whole, we (Christians) have always moved from the problem (sin) to the cure (Christ), instead of the cure (Christ) to the problem (sin). It is because of this that we think of Christ as the sin killer instead of a more holistic approach to who He is. More on this in an upcoming post. Scotus was an interesting fellow. He is where we get the term 'dunce' from. He was a strong proponent of the Immaculate Conception, the Roman Catholic version of Judy's doctrine of Christ (not having a sinful nature). They couldn't deal with it scripturally so they created a doctrine that ensured that Mary didn't have a sinful nature and therefore couldn't pass it on to Jesus. Brilliant way around the text! Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 3:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth Lance wrote: > I believe that even had that (unnamed) thingy > never occured the Eternal Son would still have > Incarnated. This sounds like evolutionary theory is your working paradigm. Is this true? Do you believe in evolution (perhaps theistic evolution) as the proper model for our origins? Peace be with you. David Miller. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004 ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.

