"Many men say there is one God; the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are only one God! I say that is a strange god any how -- three in one, and one in three! It is a curious organizations...All are to be crammed into one god, according to sectarianism. It would make the biggest God in all the world. He would be a wonderfully big God -- he would be a giant or a monster." Joseph Smith, Jr., HISTORY OF THE CHURCH 6:476:76
"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage form God the Father, and that the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a spirit; and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods. If this is in accordance with the New Testament, lo and behold! We have three Gods anyhow, and they are plural: and who can contradict it?" Joseph Smith, Jr., HISTORY OF THE CHURCH 6:474
Dave, Is Joe saying I do not care if this agrees with the New Testament?
Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Blaine,
>PERRY: Okay, the LDS interpret the Godhead as 3 separate gods...sorry to
>mislead you!
In conversations with LDS in the past I understood from their response
that the LDS holy spirit was the spirit of the LDS god, and not a separate
god itself. That is what I originally stated. DaveH corrected me in saying
that the LDS holy spirit is not the spirit of LDS god, but a separate LDS
god in and of itself. In the line above, I acknowledged that, and corrected
my understanding. DaveH had said that I was being misleading. I was
apologizing to those whom he thinks I misled, not to him. Now, what is it
you see wrong with that?
Now, to clear up the obfuscation created by this smokescreen, my original
point is yet more clearly made by this description of the LDS godhead. It is
NOT the same Godhead of the Bible. The names are the same, but the
characters are different. The godhead of the Bible does not consist of a god
from Kolob that was once a man, a god that was once a man made by the
physical union of the god from Kolob and the human Mary, and a separate
spirit that is also a god. Not the same at all.
Regarding the section about women and resurrection, the reference I gave
to prophet Snow speaks for itself. Here it is in brief: "No woman will get
into the celestial kingdom, except her husband receives her, if she is
worthy to have a husband."
As to why I typically do not look to Mormons for answers to Mormon
questions is that they 1) typically regurgitate the accepted standard LDS
answers, which err in the same way Joseph Smith erred, and 2) use the same
words that Christians use, but use the hidden LDS meanings. Most commonly
they do not reveal the differences. They may not even be aware of the
differences. The best source of the truth about Mormons is from 1) the works
of the LDS, and 2) former LDS members who have been lead by the Holy Spirit
of the Bible from the pagan LDS system into truth, and who then can see the
pagan and occultic nature of the system, and typically speak/write quite
openly and truthfully about it.
Perry
Fun Facts: Joseph Smith, the great LDS prophet, stated that there were men
living on the moon! Where did he get this? Here is an article that tells
about the most likely source: http://home.comcast.net/~cpl2602/moonhoax.htm.
Seems to me that a prophet would know better.
""Nearly all the great discoveries of men in the last half century have, in
one way or another... contributed to prove Joseph Smith to be a prophet. As
far back as 1837, I know that he said the moon was inhabited by men and
women the same as this earth, and that they lived to a greater age than we
do, that they live generally to near the age of 1000 years. He described the
men as averaging near six feet in height, and dressing quite uniformly in
something near the Quaker style" (O. B. Huntington, Young Women's Journal,
Vol. 3, p. 264, 1892).
Not to be outdone, prophet Brigham Young stated that there were people
living on the Sun!
"Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an
evening, called the moon?... So it is with regard to the inhabitants of the
sun. Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there
is any life there? No question of it" (B. Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol.
13, p. 271)."
Are these the men you want telling you what god says?
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