Based on the foregoing I may have to retract my comment on David's ability
with children. At least two gold stars go on the fridge for this one.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: January 19, 2005 15:37
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk Moderation


> Judy wrote:
> > I disagree with your assessment that Gary's
> > comment was similar to mine. For one thing
> > I don't ever enquire of Gary; but Lance was
> > pondering this question and I did not reply in
> > jest (sorry that it sounded that way).
>
> Ok, you make a good point here.  Your response was solicited by Lance,
> whereas Gary's comment was not solicited by inquiry, but rather it was
> offered perhaps with the motive of expressing contempt.  The problem is
that
> we really can't judge his motives, so perhaps we should just give him the
> benefit of the doubt, even though his post was not solicited by you.
>
> Judy wrote:
> > I sincerely believe that holding to this cosmic incarnation
> > belief that he has spoken of is similar to being stuck in
> > an expanded kind of "positional truth" which when not
> > walked out daily becomes static - a doctrine by which
> > one will never be conformed to the image of Christ or
> > overcome.
>
> Then a less personal expression would be something like, "from my
> perspective, a person who embraces this cosmic incarnation belief will get
> stuck in a time warp...," and continue with the rest of what you said.  I
> really don't like curbing the freedom of people to express themselves in
> their own way, so I certainly am not putting this on you in this
particular
> case, but we should recognize that when we make posts personal, people
often
> respond in a personal way back, and this is what causes a thread to lose
> focus on the original topic and degrade into a boxing match between two
> people.  That gets rather boring for the rest of the list, or even worse,
> distasteful.  So, why not just try and be as impersonal as we can in our
> speech here?  Instead of saying, "YOU..." say "This doctrine has such and
> such effect"?
>
> Judy wrote:
> > If you David do (as you say) believe 1 Corinthians
> > 2:16 as well as 2 Corinthians 5:17 - then stereotyping
> > someone the way Gary has done is a contradiction.
>
> I think you are still missing the point he was trying to make.  In higher
> levels of education, people READ other scholars.  If a person rejects
> reading the other scholars, that person is attempting to stay at a lower
> level of education.  That may not be bad.  Smith Wigglesworth was a man of
> God that I highly respect, and he never read any book but the Bible.  And
> furthermore, if we accept Gary's assessment about your educational level,
> then my perspective toward him would be, why don't you take it a little
> easier on the person who you recognize does not have the educational
> background that you have.  Those who beat up intellectually upon others
less
> educated than them are in my opinion, intellectual bullies.
>
> By the way, Judy, what is your educational level?  Have you graduated from
> high school?  Any college?  Any post graduate degrees?
>
> Judy wrote:
> > ... what I take exception to is giving the voice of man
> > (read theologians and church fathers) more authority
> > than God's Word.
>
> I agree.  Good point.
>
> Judy wrote:
> > The KJV Bible is written two grades higher than Gary
> > gives me credit for. It is on a 10th Grade level ...
>
> Actually, it depends upon what studies you look at, and what year the
study
> was done.  The Flesch-Kincaid formula assigns a 5th grade (11 year old)
> reading level.  See:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Bible
>
> If we take this study, then Gary was being gracious and giving you three
> grades higher than your favorite book. :-)
>
> Judy wrote:
> > ... but this should not make one whit of a difference
> > to the spiritually minded since God is prone to hide
> > things from the wise and prudent only to reveal them
> > to babes.
>
> Excellent point!
>
> Not many wise and noble are called.
>
> Isn't the Holy Spirit wonderful?  The Lord can take an idiot fisherman
with
> a sixth grade education, fill him with the Holy Ghost, and make him more
> knowledgeable and more wise than a man with ten Ph.D.'s.  Our God is
> wonderful and has a fine sense of humor.
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
>
>
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