RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?

[ShieldsFamily]

I can relate to that, as believing and telling myself God’s Word over many years delivered me from tremendous depression and self hatred.  When my sons were very young I used to wake lock myself in the closet in the middle of the night to cry so no one would hear.  Praise God, apart from Whom I’d be living in the coocoo’s nest myself.  I have sown with tears and reaped with joy.  My heart goes out to those who are still in the lurch.  Some of us here on TT no doubt. Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:59 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?   jt: No I don't believe that a believer can be completely demon possessed. I'd say she was extremely oppressed. She was diagnosed as manic depressive.  A lot of negativity and fear goes along with that too. When she first committed her life to the Lord she went for counselling at the Church we went to and the counsellor there told her she was the most negative person he had ever met in his life (and he was a senior citizen). Early on when she would have these depressive attacks his (the counsellor's) wife would meet her in the parking lot and they would just walk and quote scripture, it helped and later as her mind was renewed more in God's Word she learned to feed herself and the bad times became less frequent.   It's like when that evil spirit was oppressing King Saul - it would come on him and he would act crazy but then David would come and play anointed music on the harp and the spirit would leave for a season but it always returned because God had removed his hand from Saul.  I don't believe God does that with the average believer but he expects us to grow and to learn how to stand.     On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:41:28 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: So your believing friend was demon possessed? Iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor jt: It is demonic and it happens because the enemy wants the world to know that the whole God thing is an embarrassment and is just for crazy people.   Drugs don't phase a spirit; what they do is put the person into a type of catatonia so that the spirits can not manifest as they would like but as soon as the person stops their medication there is invariably an outbreak. These people have a breach in the spirit and are like cities with walls broken down.  My friend (who incidentally is a believer) was in such torment that she would just continually pace, couldn't sit and couldn't be at rest and she had no peace.  She told me that the medication made her feel like she was wrapped in cotton padding - she and could feel nothing and didn't have much control over her thoughts; it was like being in limbo, she had no emotions - just felt like a walking dead person.   On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:12:44 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:Why is it that schizophrenic paranoids are always talking about scriptures/God? Has always seemed very demonic to me. So how do drugs modulate demons—so it’s gotta be a physical chemical thing.  There are so many unknown elements that we don’t yet understand, and might not until His return.  In my nursing psych rotation we were at the state mental hospital, which made “One Flew Over the Coocoos Nest” look like a tea party.  Lots of evil stuff going on there.  Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson There are also lots of them in jails. When I worked with the mentally ill...many years ago....I was absolutely POSITIVE many of them were indeed possessed. Oh, boy, this can raise lots of questions... Kay   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Speaking of which—are there any opinions on schizophrenia being chemical vs demonic?  Today while I was in an auxiliary meeting at the hospital a schizo. woman outside our meeting room in the cafeteria started ranting and carrying on so loud.  Security had to deal with her.  She was talking about God and at first I thought it was a street preacher. J  I felt so sorry for her.  Later one of the cafeteria workers told me that she has worked there 6 years and knows the woman, who is usually so sweet, but has these “spells” when she stops taking her meds.  (Typical of schizophrenics.)  It’s such a terrible debilitating condition, and seems to affect most of the homeless who aren’t just junkies.  Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:02 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?   They aren't much into "testing the spirits" any longer, are they? Nor are they into taking medications that can help take the voices away....   K. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Wednesday, 19 January, 2005 08.33 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian? As long as you agree that sheep are representative of Christians. Sheople today will follow any voice Slade Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Au contraire, contraire, preacher! All you have to do is lead...they follow. You never have to udder (hehehe...I know that's for cows) a word to them.   Kay, who has raised sheep with Slade -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Tuesday, 18 January, 2005 22.05 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian? Can't get em by your zipped lip either! Jeff Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: perfect analogy! ----- Original Message ----- From: Slade Henson To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 20:45 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?   What do you think? If any man has a hundred sheep, and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and go and search for the one that is straying? If it turns out that he finds it, truly I say to you, he rejoices over it more than over the ninety-nine which have not gone astray. Anyone who has raised sheep knows you can't get the lost sheep to come back to the fold by chasing and screaming at her. - slade -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Deegan Sent: Tuesday, 18 January, 2005 18.40 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian? I have been easy on Dave this go round.  Would you agree Dave? Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com