John wrote:
> Your definition of "ad hominem" has done
> absolutely nothing to end the problem

It is not "MY" definition, as in my personal definition.  Following are some 
links to help you understand the ad hominem fallacy better:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

http://www.goodart.org/attack.htm

http://www.cuyamaca.net/bruce.thompson/Fallacies/abusive.asp

By the way, the comments on this last link identifies a recent post by Lance 
as being ad hominem when he referred to Kevin's arguments as being 
supercilious.  Judy recognized this when she spoke about how Kevin does not 
come across arrogant to her.  Then you derided her for getting personal, 
claiming that Lance was speaking about Kevin's arguments and not Kevin. 
Such unproductive exchanges abound because of a lack of understanding of 
reason and the ad hominem fallacy.

John wrote:
> Tensions have not decreased one wit because
> of your" rule.

The goal of the rule is not to decrease tension.  We will always have 
tension on TruthTalk because we welcome a wide variety of members.  If we 
get atheists, pagans, Protestants, Catholics, Mormons, etc. in the same 
forum, there ought to be some tension or something is wrong.  The goal of 
the rule is to encourage rational and logical posts that are meaningful to 
all the members of the forum.

John wrote:
> And what will become of any of your endeavors
> where this idiotic formula exists?   Ps 49:10
> "...the stupid and the senseless alike perish."
> now   -- let's look at the above.   In no way did
> I actually attack Miller.   I spoke of "idiotic
> formula" and quoted a scripture with the word
> "stupid" in it.  Miller will never admit that this was
> offensive to him because he has his "rule" to
> defend  --    but the fact is, the post, my post,
> is very insulting.

Your post was insulting, but very poor logically so it kind of rolls off me 
like water off a duck's back.  In regards to the rules of TruthTalk, your 
post is marginally crossing the line because of saying "your endeavors" etc. 
If I were moderator, in most cases I would probably let it slide or maybe 
send you a private note nudging you away from attacking a list member 
personally.  If someone had said this to someone who was very sensitive, I 
would probably have to issue a reprimand because I know how such would set 
them off on their own personal attacks against the original poster.

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 


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