In a message dated 2/8/2005 3:45:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 02:20:40 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
...  but all those hell bound children.   And to think of how impressionable chilren really are.   
Why, we could probably convert all of them (the children). I mean, they will believe nearly anything
we tell them. 
 
Really John?  I understand you were the perfect dad why, Judy, do you have to inject this little slur  --   and by the way Miller Four, I am not hurt by this  --  it is just that this represents a serious dent in your armor; a dent that is so often denied.   We  have here a "surface issue" that represents a far deeper reality  (remember that discussion?)  but did you ever try to tell them to stop jumping
on the bed or to stop fighting with their brothers? - and are they fully &totally converted or walking
in the flesh while professing to serve Christ??Judy  -  a perfect Dad does not expell his children for mistakes or even platant (at times) disobedience.   Need I say more? 
 

Poor kids  --  especially those who don't know how to talk.......who haven't learned the language.  
There really is NO hope for them.  
 
It's the parent's responsibility to "teach them" and I'm sure you excelled in this John.  It's important to
God. The reason He chose Abraham is because He knew Abraham was responsible and would instruct
his children and teach them to fear Him. (Gen 18:19)  Do you realize that you have changed the subject of my post, the illustrative subject?   You are now making an argument for something I did not write.   Specifically, I was talking about an infant  --   one who did not have language as a skill.   And you come up with a man, Abraham, who served the Lord well and after his righteousness had been accounted for in his faith apart from anything might have done in the future. 

By the way  --   a good discussion follows, on the part of both Judy and Bill.   Of course, Bill wins

out in the end ..
 
God's Truth wins out in the end yes, of course, he does.   Just a little partisan play and that's the side I want to be on. and I am wanting to believe this, as well Say, what was Paul talking about
when he wrote to the Church at Corinth concerning marriage between the believer and an unbeliever.
He claims a believer in the house causes the children to be holy (sanctified set apart) - but otherwise
they would be UNCLEAN? (1 Cor 7:14)  Now how does a sweet little innocent child become unclean
Bishop John?  Just wondering.....Is this a prebath question?   There is prebath, postbath and -----------  in my case, abath when it comes to children.   Perhaps, the setting apart of your child for the New Life (sanctification) is not the same thing as "plucking them from the flames of hell."   



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