On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 02:20:40 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
... but all those hell bound children. And to think of how impressionable chilren really are. Why, we could probably convert all of them (the children). I mean, they will believe nearly anything we tell them.
Really John? I understand you were the perfect dad
why, Judy, do you have to
inject this little slur -- and by the way Miller Four, I am
not hurt by this -- it is just that this represents a
serious dent in your armor; a dent that is so often denied. We
have here a
"surface issue" that represents a far deeper reality (remember that
discussion?)
jt: Only light teasing John -
you do it all the time so I thought you may even enjoy it :)
but did you
ever try to tell them to stop jumping on the bed
or to stop fighting with their brothers? - and are they fully &
totally converted or walking in the flesh while
professing to serve Christ??
Judy - a perfect Dad
does not expell his children for mistakes or even platant (at times)
disobedience. Need I say
more?
jt: Expulsion is
not the point I was making - You claim above that they will believe nearly
everything we tell them. Right!! Our 2yr old grandson had to
be swatted five times in a row for the same offense.
Rebellion is built in from birth and goes from bad to worse in the seed of the
unrighteous.
Poor kids -- especially those who don't know how to talk.......who haven't learned the language. There really is NO hope for them.
It's the parent's responsibility to "teach them" and I'm sure you excelled in this John. It's important to God. The reason He chose Abraham is because He knew Abraham was responsible and would instruct his children and teach them to fear Him. (Gen 18:19)
Do you realize that you have
changed the subject of my post, the illustrative subject? You are
now making an argument for something I
did not write. Specifically, I was talking about an infant
-- one who did not have language as a
skill. And you come up with a man, Abraham, who served the Lord well
and after his righteousness had been accounted for in his faith apart from
anything might have done in the future.
jt: I am showing
that training children is important to God; we don't know that ALL babies go to
heaven even though I would like to think that they do. Unless I see it
clearly in God's Word I wouldn't promote the idea, we should not go past what is
written.
By the way -- a good discussion follows, on the part of both Judy and Bill. Of course, Bill wins out in the end ..
God's Truth wins out in the end
yes, of course, he
does. Just a little partisan play
and that's the side I want to be on.
nd I am wanting to believe this, as well
Say, what was Paul talking about
when he wrote to the Church at
Corinth concerning marriage between the believer and an unbeliever.
He claims a believer in the house
causes the children to be holy (sanctified set apart) - but otherwise
they would be
UNCLEAN? (1 Cor 7:14) Now how does a sweet little innocent
child become unclean Bishop John?
Just wondering.....
Is this a prebath
question? There is prebath, postbath and ----------- in my
case, abath when it comes to children. Perhaps, the setting apart of
your child for the New Life (sanctification) is not the same thing as "plucking
them from the flames of hell."
jt: We don't know for sure
then do we?
