Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

Tue, 01 Mar 2005 05:49:05 -0800

Blah Blah Blah ....
We understand you infidelity to the Word fully, that is the real issue & real problem here!
some quote secular songs, some quote movies, and some quote POLLYANA

Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Good-bye for now, Judy. I thought as much. Thanks for making clear what most on TT already know. There is no wish on my part to embarrass you. IMO you can handle that just fine on your own. People like you, David and Kevin just search the internet so as to have it speak, like a ventriloquist's dummy, for that which you in no way understand yourself.
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Sent: March 01, 2005 07:57
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

You first Lance.... You're always requiring of others what you are not willing to do yourself.
First you prove that you understand what I am about. You keep calling me a "fundamentalist" which I am not.
So far as I'm concerned what you don't understand you stereotype and card file or give a title and placement.  jt
 
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 07:45:27 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jt asks 'what would the point be?' The POINT would be that when you say 'you understand only too well' that you're speaking the truth and not 'blowin' smoke'..
 
What would the point be?  Do I have something to prove?  jt
 
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 07:34:18 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jt says 'I understand only too well what is being discussed and where we differ'.  Do you indeed?
 
Please take both Gary's and Bill's posts on KBarth and, translate them into your own words thus demonstrating this claim of yours.
 
IFF you do I shall offer the most profound apology for underestimating your 'discernment'.  Please do not offer some off-putting explanation for not doing so. This is an excellen occasion for you to put up or..
 
You flatter yourself Lance.  No snow, nor is there smoke and mirrors (on this end anyway).
I understand only too well what is being discussed and where we differ because I see both sides.
You see the human side only as do your theologians of preference.  jt
 
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 07:14:12 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
We've got snow this morning. I've shovelled for the last 2 hours. When I do so I look to clear a path for others to walk on. It is foolish to shovel onto your own head.
 
You completely turned what was meant into something else. This is nothing new for you, Judy. When the snow gets deep you should call for help.
Humility is defined as agreeing with God and saying what He says about whatever is in question.  jt
 
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 06:54:34 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I don't demonize any part of the body per se Lance but without spiritual discernment everyone is open to deception.
Look at how the adversary uses the "imagination" and John Lennon's song is a perfect example.  God does not
reveal Himself to mankind through their fallen imaginations. Nor does He reveal His Word to us in this way.  Faith imagination is a misnomer.  How do you know the Jesus you conjure up is not the "angel of light?"  God  will either hide or reveal Himself to whomsoever He wills - and He hides Himself from the proud but gives grace to the humble.  jt
 
 
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 06:20:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jt:'I don't want a Jesus of my own imagination..'
1. Please don't demonize the imagination. It comes into play in all of our thinking (theologizing). The kind of 'interpreting' that you, David et al do on a regular basis.
 
2. Therefore, like it or not, YOU DO HAVE A JESUS OF YOUR OWN 'IMAGINING'. 
G, you sound just like my mother who, last time I was with her was in total unbelief and I have no reason
to believe things have changed since then.  She told me one would have to have a good imagination to
believe the Bible.  This is the fruit of liberal unbelieving scholars and clergy on the radio and in her Church
which BTW has lost it's candlestick and is getting ready to close the doors and auction the building.  God will
not be mocked and ppl always reap what they sow.  I don't want a Jesus of my own imagination who would
just be another antichrist figure.  judyt
 
 
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:04:52 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
So the ressurection story developed over time from a legend?
A tall tale?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'saga' and 'legend' are types of history, the event/s (or Event/s) of which gives rise to 'stories'
 
pastors tell ppl stories, in this case the story of the resurrection
 
it's like the story of JCs birth--in KJ English someone writes: ~ 'now the birth of Jesus was on this wise' or Jesus' birth came about like this...
 
such stories do not falsify such events (with a capital 'E'); they let you imagine the truth involved..kinda like a good (B Dylan:) song
 
 
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:34:20 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
So maybe you could explain .. these quotes, why is the ressurection a "Legend"?
 
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