LOL Judy! I wonder what God said to Isaac and Rebekah the morning after. For the longest time the State did not govern or legislate marriage. They had to do that when our societies got more complicated. I haven't done any research in this area but when did State sanctioned marriages happen? Was it because English law allows only legitimate sons to inherit with the first born one getting the main title plus the lands that went with the title? Someone should write a book about how primogeniture has shaped society. King Richard II became king by declaring his brother's two sons illegitimate because it was discovered that King Edward V was betrothed(!) to another before his marriage. Apparently in those days, betrothed people could have church approved sex and it was the equivalent of marriage without the ceremony. I can see why that tradition had to change. I can imagine some cousin of Princes Will and Harry saying, "your dad was betrothed to _____ before he married your mom so you guys are illegitimate and I'm the heir apparent." and they replying, "oh yeah and your grandfather......"
 
Love,
 
Caroline
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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Stay Single Young Man

How does God determine what is fornication and what is not?  I would think this would be
the important part because fornicators DO NOT inherit his Kingdom.  Adulterers don't either.    judyt
 
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:56:56 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



I don't know what I think about living together without a legal ceremony.   I suppose that if the couple has made a conscious  commitment to one another they are "married."   I mean, the state does not tell them to separate.    It seems to me that there is a difference between living together and shaken up.  

I like what Caroline wrote, below. 

Jd




In a message dated 4/11/2005 5:36:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


                                                                                                                 Pros for legal marriage

1) legal protection and rights including survivor benefits, inheritance, insurance etc.
2) tax breaks
3) teens can't contract serial marriages/divorces behind their parents backs. Some are probably doing it anyway but they know such marriages are not accepted.
 
When teens fall in love they:
- honestly and wholeheartedly believe it'll last forever
- honestly and wholeheartedly believe it's God's will
- will believe that stats that say teen love and teen marriage is temporary does not apply to them
 
If the above three are not issues, then sure, no reason to get marriage sanctioned by State. But then again, we have to remember that everyone going to the altar never thinks they'll need State protection from the person they are swearing to love forever and ever.
 
Love,
 
Caroline


 

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