Lance wrote: >>> As you, and perhaps others interpret Scripture, >>> vis a vis the 'soul' you are COMPLETELY GREEK >>> IN YOUR UNDERSTANDING. Can I get an AMEN?
Judy wrote: >> Since you have no frame of reference as to what I am >> saying Lance, how in the world would you know? >> You reject it because your mind is full of old movies >> and the teachings of these men. Broken cisterns and >> blind guide... Lance wrote: > Who among you, respected by Judy, would make this > point in other words? Are you asking for someone to make your point or her point? Your point, Lance, misses the mark. Just consider the Egyptian culture which predates the Greeks. They were very concerned about the after-life and built huge pyramids because of this belief. I've been to Egypt and seen some of them. Have you? Furthermore, just because an idea is found in the Greek culture does not mean it is a wrong idea. Many times you and others have this unspoken assumption that anything from Greek culture is wrong. Some of us consider this to be a false assumption. Add to this the idea that you often paint views with too broad of a brush. For example, Greeks were not united in their belief of the immortality of the soul. Plato certainly did posit a belief in the immortality of the soul which led to its popular conception much like Christianity has in our culture, but Aristotle did not hold to such a belief. Plato's influence has fed much of our Christian history and theology, but Aristotle has fed much of our scientific history and philosophy which denies the existence of a soul or spirit. So your effort to try and attribute the concept of the continuation of the soul after death to being COMPLETELY GREEK fails on many fronts, both by overgeneralization, and by not appreciating the Greek influence upon your favorite theologians' holistic view of man (which is clearly Aristotelian and therefore Greek too!). I also would like to point out that despite your rhetoric about the Greek concept of the soul, the greatest teacher and revelator about the continuation of the soul was Jesus Christ. We should look to his teachings to settle this matter. Just read Luke 16:19-31 and get the image that Jesus held, which was very much like that depicted in a work from the first century Jewish / Roman historian Flavius Josephus. As for Judy's point, try to read Kevin's post with the subject, "Universalists about fear not love." I think that very well captures the problems we have with the universalist perspective that many on TruthTalk have. You seem to draw upon movies and teachings from men for theology whereas many of us draw upon Scriptures. It is kind of like arguing with someone who always quotes from secondary sources. As a book reader, I think you can appreciate, as scholars on the list can, that when disputes arise, we should favor primary sources over secondary sources. It is difficult to do that with many of you because you refuse to do that. Scripture is our primary source, don't you agree? Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
