BTW, Blaine, maybe you covered this already, but how did the guy on the
cross next to Jesus go to Paradise if he wasn't baptized? Izzy
cross next to Jesus go to Paradise if he wasn't baptized? Izzy
Go ahead Dave OR Blaine can you answer Izzy?
EXAMPLES of those that were saved independent of baptism
EXAMPLES of those that were saved independent of baptism
Luke 7:37-50 "Wherefore I say unto thee, Her SINS, which are many, are FORGIVEN; for she loved much: but to whom little is FORGIVEN, the same loveth little. And he said unto her, Thy SINS are FORGIVEN. And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also? And he said to the woman, Thy FAITH hath SAVED thee; go in peace."
Jesus plainly stated that the women was immediately forgiven and was now saved by faith. She knelt at the feet of Jesus, trusted Him, and went away a saved woman. She was saved without baptism.
Jesus plainly stated that the women was immediately forgiven and was now saved by faith. She knelt at the feet of Jesus, trusted Him, and went away a saved woman. She was saved without baptism.
Luke 18:35-43 healing/conversion of a blind man. VS 42 "And Jesus said unto him, Receive thy sight: thy faith hath saved thee."
The publican, Luke 18:13, 14 Standing there in the Temple, he prayed saying: "God be merciful to me a sinner," Jesus says "I tell you, this man went down to his house justified!"
The thief on the cross in Luke 23:39-43 Was not baptised. One was saved that we might have hope One was LOST that we might not presume.
ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
BTW, Blaine, maybe you covered this already, but how did the guy on the
cross next to Jesus go to Paradise if he wasn't baptized? Izzy
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Blaine, FYI you are not one who is in a position to determine who is/isn't a
Christian, since you aren't one. Therefore, I, being a Christian, can assure
you that Kevin is one. Izzy
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BLAINE: As I have said many times before, Kevin has his own religion, which
is not Christian. He selects obscure passages that justify his vanity. Hey
Kevin, why did Jesus insist on being baptized? Answer that question
directly without trying to get the issue sidetracked, OK? (HINT: to
fulfill ALL righteouness)
Faith - without works
BLAINE: Does this mean you don't like to work for a living, Kevin? (:
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
DAVEH: I concur, Kevin. Faith is certainly a key element of salvation, but
I do not think it is the only element necessary for salvation. How do you
see it, Kevin....do you believe faith is the only necessary element of
salvation?
DAVEH: Hey Kevin........Do you have a problem with me using 1Cor 15:29 in
support of other Biblical passages that become cumulative evidence that the
Primitive Christians believed a water baptism was necessary for salvation?
It does lead one to that logical conclusion, does it not?
Christians of all ages accept the clear teaching that salvation is by Faith
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