BLAINE: Good point. I read something on that the other day--it has to do with the word "paradise." I will have to find out where I was reading that, but I think the word was the result of a mistranslation, and simply meant "the world of spirits." I would not, however, pretend to judge the thief and contest that he ended up in any place other than a good one, as I believe God is just and takes many things into consideration. For example, what about little children who die without baptism, as millions of third world children do? And do we consign all Muslims to hell? Hardly. God is just, as well as merciful, and only He can make judgements regards these cases that fall outside the Christian view. As a Mormon Christian, I believe God has told us some things that apply to us, but many of his judgements he reserves to Himself. Judge not (rashly), that ye be not judged (rashly), in other words; or, "Judgement is mine," saith the Lord.
-- "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BTW, Blaine, maybe you covered this already, but how did the guy on the cross next to Jesus go to Paradise if he wasn't baptized? Izzy -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] baptism Blaine, FYI you are not one who is in a position to determine who is/isn't a Christian, since you aren't one. Therefore, I, being a Christian, can assure you that Kevin is one. Izzy -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] baptism BLAINE: As I have said many times before, Kevin has his own religion, which is not Christian. He selects obscure passages that justify his vanity. Hey Kevin, why did Jesus insist on being baptized? Answer that question directly without trying to get the issue sidetracked, OK? (HINT: to fulfill ALL righteouness) Faith - without works BLAINE: Does this mean you don't like to work for a living, Kevin? (: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DAVEH: I concur, Kevin. Faith is certainly a key element of salvation, but I do not think it is the only element necessary for salvation. How do you see it, Kevin....do you believe faith is the only necessary element of salvation? DAVEH: Hey Kevin........Do you have a problem with me using 1Cor 15:29 in support of other Biblical passages that become cumulative evidence that the Primitive Christians believed a water baptism was necessary for salvation? It does lead one to that logical conclusion, does it not? Christians of all ages accept the clear teaching that salvation is by Faith ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
