From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] baptism Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:39:55 -0400
It amazes me that could could ask this of Dave, Perry! ,at least without a
'smiley'. Kevin is a jerk and, he comes accross as one (I probably do as
well) on TT. I bet he does 'on the street' also. It is such that give
christianity a bad rep. He probably sees himself as 'suffering for the cause
of Christ' whereas it's just the 'jerk factor' in play.
Kevin:Speaking JtoJ we ought to keep this in mind.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: May 11, 2005 09:29 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] baptism
> Dave,
>
> I can't understand why you do not hang on every word Kevin posts! He
> backs up all of his biblical claims with scripture references, and not
just
> one or two, with several to many. He backs up what he claims about the
> Mormon church with statements from your own non-prophets and leaders. He
has
> a passion for the Lord, and quite evidently has been called to use this
> passion, and his knowledge of the Word, to spread the gospel. I would
expect
> him to act no differently on TT than he does on the street. Just because
he
> does not fit your idea of what Truth Talk should be does not mean that his
> exchanges are not meaningful. In fact, in terms of proclaiming the gospel
to
> the unsaved, Kevin is probably doing more on TT than any other poster. He
> steadfastly sticks to the message, not straying into the
pseudo-intellectual
> realms of so many posts. Those things are often titillating and fun to
> ponder, but when it comes down to it, either you believe or you don't.
>
> Perry
>
> >From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] baptism
> >Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:46:44 -0700
> >
> >DAVEH: Nothing will make for easier discussions, IF one of the parties
> >does not want to have a meaningful exchange, Kevin. I view TT as being a
> >place where two or more people of contrasting opinions can explore why
> >other's believe differently. I perceive that some TTers (such as
yourself)
> >are here not to have a meaningful discussion unless it results in the
other
> >person adopting your beliefs. Basically, you want to use TT as a forum
to
> >convert people to Christianity as you understand it...is that correct?
> >Assuming so, you probably don't feel a need to find areas of common
belief,
> >but rather cut right to the chase and try to overwhelm your opponent with
> >their error of thought/belief as you perceive it. Have I analyzed it
> >correctly, Kevin?
> >
> > I harbor no illusions about changing your anti attitudes, Kevin. But
I
> >am curious as to why you are as you are (and why you believe as you do),
if
> >that makes any sense. It's just one of my hang-ups I suppose. So,
every
> >now and then you do reveal a bit about yourself, for which I am
> >appreciative. But as I see it, you mostly put up a pretty thick wall
> >hoping to wear your opponents down in their futile efforts to overcome
that
> >wall. Then you try to attack their perceived soft spot, hoping for a
quick
> >victory.
> >
> > That'll be $250 for your initial therapy session, please! :-D
> >
> >Kevin Deegan wrote:
> >
> >>Why does it make discussions easier?????
> >> Do you mean it will disarm those rascal Anti's?
> >>
> >>*/Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
> >>
> >> DAVEH: I think it makes discussions much easier if common points
> >> are first found, Kevin.
> >>
> >> Kevin Deegan wrote:
> >>
> >>> What is this Mormon preoccupation with finding all the things we
> >>> have in common?
> >>> Why would one want to find; lets say, for example, all the things
> >>> they have in common with the devil?
> >>> So what then; after we find what we have in common?
> >>>
> >>> */Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Charles Perry Locke wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> DAVEH: Ohhhhhhhh....what an interesting response, Perry!
> >>>>> I must say that I do find it rather curious that you would
> >>>>> rather take a more vigorous new tack against my beliefs
> >>>>> rather than discuss issues of theology common to both of us.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It is not what we have in common that is the problem...it
> >>>> is what we do NOT have in common.
> >>>
> >>> DAVEH: So you have no interest in discussing theology in an
> >>> effort to see what we might believe in common? Maybe we have
> >>> two different perspectives about TT, Perry. I view it as a
> >>> place where people of divergent opinions can share ideas and
> >>> quiz one another about their beliefs without feeling
> >>> threatened or inviting a hard sell approach to change other
> >>> people. I'm beginning to think you are here to do battle, so
> >>> to speak. To you, TT merely is a place to convert people to
> >>> your way of thinking. Am I reading you wrong on this? If
> >>> not, then for what reason did you come to TT, Perry?
> >>>
> >
> >--
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >Dave Hansen
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >http://www.langlitz.com
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> >
>
>
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