Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,


  The LIE I accused you of was making me out to be against mormons posting on TT,
DAVEH:   ???   Huh?   What are you talking about, Perry?
when I have NEVER been against that. I felt that you intentionally twisted it around, and made it appear as though I objected to your posting mormon doctrine
DAVEH:  Where did you get that notion, Perry?  Either my memory is much worse than I expected, or you are making this stuff up.  And....I think the latter is more likely in this case.
when I DO NOT AND NEVER HAVE.
DAVEH:  Nor have I ever said that I think you objected to me teaching Mormonism, or anything remotely similar.   What have you been smokin', Perry???   :-)

    If you are seriously accusing me of such....dig out the quote that supports your supposition.  Until then, please quit whining and misconstruing what I've posted.   For a guy who has accused me of being deceitful, and twisting what you've said....you seem to be creating a mistruth in the way you've twisted this matter, Perry.  Go back and read my posts that you consider at fault and see if you didn't misinterpret what I posted.  If I am wrong...then post it for everybody to see....and I'll apologize.  If you don't find any incriminating evidence, then do you think you might owe me an apology?  Or......should we just accept your silence as  an admission of wrongly accusing me of posting something I didn't say?
I only objected to your teaching (from my perspective) and then denying it.

  The only thing left to do is for you to acknowledge that you understand that I never objected to your posting motmon doctrine
DAVEH:   ???   Why should I have to acknowledge such, when I've never posted anything that inferred that you objected to me posting Mormon doctrine!
or else to provide evidence to the contrary, and that the only thing I ever objected to (from my perspective) was your denial of your teaching mormon doctrine.
DAVEH:   And for that, you called me deceitful, did you not?

Perry



From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teac
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:31:30 -0700

Dave,

  I respect your position, and I beleive that we may have settled our first point of contention.

  While you may not consider some of your responses to be teaching mormonism, I most whole-heartedly believe that some of it is.

  When you answer questions that are asked, and even when you give mormon references to support it, I do not think of that as "teaching" per se. However, when you ask a Christian what he/she believes, and he/she tells you, and THEN you counter and rebut it with mormon doctrine and references, which you have done in the past, then you ARE teaching mormon doctrine, no marter how subtlekly you do it.

  So, I can live with that fact that you DO NOT consider that teaching, which allows you to say that you are NOT teaching mormon doctrine, but I will adhere to my belief that you ARE teaching mormon doctrine when you do that.

I will set out to resolve our second point of contention in my next post.

Perry

From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teac
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:07:02 -0700

DAVEH:  If you want to define teaching as responding to questions about my beliefs, then you might have a point, Perry.  I view it a bit differently though.  To be a teacher, one needs students.  For the most part, I don't view TTers as being students wanting to learn.  Witness Debbie's comments today....

   From my LDS perspective, Teachers are to teach the gospel by using the Word of God.   As you know, for the most part....I have refrained from posting latter-day passages on TT, excepting in specific cases when asked to do so or it was appropriate for the discussion.  As a courtesy to TTers, I've tried to focus my discussions within the confines of the Bible.....which in effect composes less than half of what I believe to be Canon of Scripture.   Can I teach Mormonism while ignoring much of what God has said?  Not in my opinion.  If I wanted to teach Mormonism, you'd be seeing a lot of references to our Standard Works instead of just Biblical quotes.



Charles Perry Locke wrote:

Dave, do you sometimes teach mormon doctrine on TT?

From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Pery wrote: Are you on TT to teach mormon doctrine?

DAVEH:  No, Perry....as I've explained before, that was not what motivated me to join TT, nor is it the reason I remain.



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