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CPL:Paaaaaalllllllllleeeeeeeeessseee leave off this
harangue! Can't you get past this? Do we need to be looking for another
moderator? I ain't got a 'snowball's chance' but maybe it'd be me.
Yikes!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: May 28, 2005 13:40
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon
angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teac
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
The LIE I accused you of was making me
out to be against mormons posting on TT, DAVEH:
??? Huh? What are you talking about, Perry?
when I have NEVER been against that. I felt that you
intentionally twisted it around, and made it appear as though I objected to
your posting mormon doctrine DAVEH: Where did you get that
notion, Perry? Either my memory is much worse than I expected, or you
are making this stuff up. And....I think the latter is more likely in
this case.
when I DO NOT AND NEVER HAVE. DAVEH: Nor have I
ever said that I think you objected to me teaching Mormonism, or
anything remotely similar. What have you been smokin',
Perry??? :-)
If you are seriously accusing me of
such....dig out the quote that supports your supposition. Until then,
please quit whining and misconstruing what I've posted. For a guy
who has accused me of being deceitful, and twisting what you've said....you
seem to be creating a mistruth in the way you've twisted this matter,
Perry. Go back and read my posts that you consider at fault and see if
you didn't misinterpret what I posted. If I am wrong...then post it for
everybody to see....and I'll apologize. If you don't find any
incriminating evidence, then do you think you might owe me an apology?
Or......should we just accept your silence as an admission of wrongly
accusing me of posting something I didn't say?
I only objected to your teaching (from my perspective) and then
denying it.
The only thing left to do is for you to
acknowledge that you understand that I never objected to your posting motmon
doctrine DAVEH: ??? Why should I have to
acknowledge such, when I've never posted anything that inferred that
you objected to me posting Mormon doctrine!
or else to provide evidence to the contrary, and that the only
thing I ever objected to (from my perspective) was your denial of your
teaching mormon doctrine.
DAVEH: And for that,
you called me deceitful, did you not?
Perry
From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method
of Teac
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:31:30 -0700
Dave,
I respect your position, and I beleive that we may have
settled our first point of contention.
While you may not
consider some of your responses to be teaching mormonism, I most
whole-heartedly believe that some of it is.
When you answer
questions that are asked, and even when you give mormon references to
support it, I do not think of that as "teaching" per se. However, when you
ask a Christian what he/she believes, and he/she tells you, and THEN you
counter and rebut it with mormon doctrine and references, which you have
done in the past, then you ARE teaching mormon doctrine, no marter how
subtlekly you do it.
So, I can live with that fact that you
DO NOT consider that teaching, which allows you to say that you are NOT
teaching mormon doctrine, but I will adhere to my belief that you ARE
teaching mormon doctrine when you do that.
I will set out to
resolve our second point of contention in my next post.
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses
Socratic Method of Teac
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:07:02 -0700
DAVEH: If you want to define teaching as responding to
questions about my beliefs, then you might have a point, Perry. I
view it a bit differently though. To be a teacher, one needs
students. For the most part, I don't view TTers as being students
wanting to learn. Witness Debbie's comments today....
From my LDS perspective, Teachers are to teach the
gospel by using the Word of God. As you know, for the most
part....I have refrained from posting latter-day passages on TT,
excepting in specific cases when asked to do so or it was appropriate
for the discussion. As a courtesy to TTers, I've tried to focus my
discussions within the confines of the Bible.....which in effect
composes less than half of what I believe to be Canon of
Scripture. Can I teach Mormonism while ignoring much of what
God has said? Not in my opinion. If I wanted to teach
Mormonism, you'd be seeing a lot of references to our Standard Works
instead of just Biblical quotes.
Charles Perry Locke
wrote:
Dave, do you sometimes teach mormon doctrine
on TT?
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Pery wrote: Are you on TT to teach mormon doctrine?
DAVEH: No, Perry....as I've explained before, that was
not what motivated me to join TT, nor is it the reason I remain.
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