I know the answer is "Jesus' but, it sounds a lot like a squirrel to me.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: June 21, 2005 09:10
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief


> Dave,
>
>    Wait a minute! I agree with you and then you tell me I have it
backwards?
> How does that work?
>
>    You said, "Logically, the onus is not upon me to define the Jesus I
> believe in, but rather it is on the person who suggests I don't believe in
> Jesus."
>
>    I responded, "I think you are right. You are entitled to your jesus,
and
> the onus is on us to prove him to not be the same as our Jesus."
>
>    And now you say, "You've got that a bit backwards, Perry."
>
>    Aren't you in essence, then saying that YOU had it a bit backwards
since
> I was agreeing with you?
>
> Perry
>
> >From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
> >Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:25:39 -0700
> >
> >DAVEH:   You've got that a bit backwards, Perry.   The onus is on you to
> >prove (explain might be a better word) your Jesus.....I don't recall
seeing
> >much of that on TT.....other than he created the world, was born of a
> >virgin, died and was resurrected.....all of which I believe.   Is there
> >more you (TTers) want to say about your belief about Jesus?
> >
> >Charles Perry Locke wrote:
> >
> >>Dave,
> >>
> >>   I think you are right. You are entitled to your jesus, and the onus
is
> >>on us to prove him to not be the same as our Jesus. I feel we have done
> >>that. Repeatedly. But, you do not accept our evidence, and I suppose
short
> >>of having a vision, you never will.
> >>
> >>   You have not said our Jesus is a false jesus because, since you say
you
> >>beleive in the same Jesus we believe in, that would be like shooting
> >>yourself in the foot.
> >>
> >>Perry
> >>
> >>>From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Reply-To: [email protected]
> >>>To: [email protected]
> >>>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
> >>>Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:55:30 -0700
> >>>
> >>>DAVEH:   Logically, the onus is not upon me to define the Jesus I
believe
> >>>in, but rather it is on the person who suggests I don't believe in
Jesus.
> >>>  FTR....I have not said that the Jesus Kevin, you Perry or any other
> >>>TTer believes in is a false Jesus.
> >>>
> >>>Lance Muir wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>DaveH says "Kevin, I believe in Jesus." IFF we are going to engage in
a
> >>>>conversation that entails reality, then we have to continue to build
> >>>>upon that which has been said previously.According to you THE JESUS TO
> >>>>BE BELIEVED IN IS MOST FULLY AND ACCURATELY DESCRIBED WITHIN MORMON
> >>>>TEACHING. Is this so? The Jesus believed in by Kevin, Perry, Lance et
al
> >>>>is a false Jesus. Is this not also so? (unwieldy but, you get my
> >>>>point)What, IYO, are the eternal consequenses for non-Mormons?  Mr.
> >>>>Moderator:Please grant DaveH the opportunity of fully answering and,
> >>>>explaining.
> >>>>
> >>>>     DAVEH:  FTR Kevin, I believe in Jesus.   Therefore can we
conclude
> >>>>     that you've made the judgment rather than God?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
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