Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ

[Debbie Sawczak]

Kevin wrote: I do however agree with a open exchange of words and ideas, and still think AD HOM is for SISSIES!   In the same way that sound argument is for sissies? You misunderstand the point of the ad hominem rule. It isn't to protect people's feelings and be nice, it is to encourage people to present a cogent argument about an idea rather than simply register their disdain for the individual who advanced it (whether now or at some other point in history).   Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is wrong with the ad hom rule is that you do not have a clue as to what ad hom is, apparently.   I did not imply you to be a  pervert.   I told you this.   I explained my remarks contextually.   I PLACED my words in that very context  --  one of waxing philosophical while waving a pair of men's undies.  I do assume these are men's underwear. Does it make a difference to you whether men's or women's?      And my point is exactly that of Lance's from a few days past   --   the Mormons will only complain about the sacrilege  --  the Islam folks just might do much more.  Disrespectful behavior is what I am talking about  --  not perversion   ----  disrespect and the very ignorant thought that a person can bring another to Christ by humiliating him in the public arena.      I am done with this subject  --  for the time being.    JD            -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 06:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ The problem is NOT waving undies!   You said "another mans undies" you  imply I am NOT a PERVERT! You imply & Now you try to divert. I do not care what you call it, I do not wave "other mens undies".   I do not pee on the undies, as you would apparently like me to do with a k0ran. What brings such thoughts into your mind? This is exactly what is wrong with AD HOM rule it is applied un even handedly! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:     kevin  --  all this talk of Mormon underwear  --  what is that?  Do you or do you not wave underwear around   .....................   I could be wrong but I am usually not.      If I have the correct understanding on that bit of esteemed activity,  the point, then, is not perversion  --  it is the inconsequential nature of the act and it's contrast to "waxing philosophical."  I have yet to see anyone preaching to the "lost" while waving undies around.    You want to drive a point home using the same sort of tactics????   Here's  a suggestion  --  go to your local mosque, wait until the congregation is headed for the parking lot, then throw an opened Koran on the ground, and pee on it.    We could do a study, at that point in time, of the culture differences in the reaction of the Mormon congregation  and the Islam crowd.   I would appreciate your observations as to that comparison of cultural exchange   ........................   do it just for me.      JD             -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 04:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ "Another mans undies"? Are you trying to imply I am a pervert while skirting the AD HOM?   How does your mind even think these things?   NO Consequence, is what you do in all things - NOTHING. . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having one or two beers a week is even healthy.   Waving another man's undies over your head while "preaching the gospel"  is a waste of time and of no consequence unless the goal is to ridicule and belittle.     JD       -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ Better than drinking BEER! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question is :     I wonder if Kevin gets out on the street using great philosophical words I don't know.   Waxing philisophical while yelling through a bullhorn and waving some other man's underwear over your head ????      JD                -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:26:09 GMT Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ You may all do this Bill but one speaking as the "oracles of God" says what God says using God's Words. What if Jesus had used licence during His earthly ministry - you sure wouldn't have seen any works then, just like we don't see any today because ppl are all doing their own thing. I wonder if Kevin gets out on the street using great philosophical words and currently popular terms to try and persuade ppl to come to some man-made concept. Reaping what we sow is God's righteous judgment. Sowing even to righteous sounding philosophical flesh will not bring a godly harvest any more than the anger of man brings the righteousness of God. judyt ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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